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Yennefer of Vengerberg (all spoilers)

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wichat

wichat

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#2,061
Jul 6, 2015
It's hard to chose Triss when you think about their relationship has no more than two months... And Yen's was about 20 years!!!! How can anybody whom emotions were taken off can change his feelings so quickly? Well, there's must be somone... there... who could...
 
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whitefang131

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Jul 6, 2015
wichat said:
It's hard to chose Triss when you think about their relationship has no more than two months... And Yen's was about 20 years!!!! How can anybody whom emotions were taken off can change his feelings so quickly? Well, there's must be somone... there... who could...
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To begin with there was surely some attraction between Geralt and Yen, but attraction isn't everything, in fact, it's very minimal in long term relationships. And I guess when Geralt breaks the spell, it just goes back to physical attraction and nothing more.
 
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Slowdive

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#2,063
Jul 6, 2015
whitefang131 said:
Just means that essentially, the feelings between them were manufactured. .
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Game showed that it's not true. That fact and dead rose are two reasons of why Team Triss is so angry.
 
Gilthoniel

Gilthoniel

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Jul 6, 2015
Zyvik said:
It makes me so sad when people make fun of Yen because she was a hunchback :crybaby: This is just...wrong.
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Yen had horrible childhood. Her abusive father...no comment :( About the fun comments. I wouldn't take them seriously really.
 
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whitefang131

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Jul 6, 2015
Zyvik said:
It makes me so sad when people make fun of Yen because she was a hunchback :crybaby: This is just...wrong.
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Mhm, especially when you could consider that, (now I don't know for sure, so maybe I'm wrong) Triss could've been a Dwarf with no nose and missing an upper lip and a full set of teeth.

EDIT: Maybe not dwarf, that was a bit of an exaggeration, I don't think even mages can change races.
 
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yogsothoth6

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Jul 6, 2015
whitefang131 said:
It's not really betrayal if you break up with her is it? Just means that essentially, the feelings between them were manufactured.

Of course you can say that going to Triss is a betrayal, but if the feelings were produced by a Djinn, it's not really fair to say that.
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The thing is, feelings were not produced by the Djinn spell, Geralt was already in love when he make the wish to bind their fate together. (and yeah, bind their fate, not falling in love).

And ending alone on the path, why not, but it feel like missing something ^^.
 
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Jul 6, 2015
whitefang131 said:
Mhm, especially when you could consider that, (now I don't know for sure, so maybe I'm wrong) Triss could've been a Dwarf with no nose and missing an upper lip and a full set of teeth.
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Haha true ;D But for some reason many people think that she's naturally beautiful.
 
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Jul 6, 2015
Gilthoniel said:
Yen had horrible childhood. Her abusive father...no comment :( About the fun comments. I wouldn't take them seriously really.
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Yeah, those flashbacks from "The Lady Of The Lake". :cry:
 
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Jul 6, 2015
CatchTheBreeze said:
Game showed that it's not true. That fact and dead rose are two reasons of why Team Triss is so angry.
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Yeah, bad wording on my behalf, depending on decisions, Geralts attraction and longing can be manufactured by the Djinn.

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yogsothoth6 said:
The thing is, feelings were not produced by the Djinn spell, Geralt was already in love when he make the wish to bind their fate together. (and yeah, bind their fate, not falling in love).

And ending alone on the path, why not, but it feel like missing something ^^.
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But, if you decide you don't feel for Yen, doesn't that mean it is? Sorry if I misread what that meant in game, but that's how it felt to me.

EDIT: Ending on the Path isn't such a bad thing, sure it means Geralt may not ever feel love, but it's liberating to live a life that has no responsibilities, I think Eskel and Lambert had it easy, the ability to remain true neutral, cause they didn't get drawn into matters of empires and kingdoms
 
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Slowdive

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#2,070
Jul 6, 2015
whitefang131 said:
But, if you decide you don't feel for Yen, doesn't that mean it is? Sorry if I misread what that meant in game, but that's how it felt to me.
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That was the only way for devs to make Triss choice possible. And it looks pretty artificial if you'll ask me.

Geralt made the wish. So he didnt fall in love with spell.
After spellbreaking Yen said that nothing's changed

So he we are.
 
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wichat

wichat

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Jul 6, 2015
whitefang131 said:
To begin with there was surely some attraction between Geralt and Yen, but attraction isn't everything, in fact, it's very minimal in long term relationships. And I guess when Geralt breaks the spell, it just goes back to physical attraction and nothing more.
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REally? Not in one of my dialogue options... :p
 
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whitefang131

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Jul 6, 2015
CatchTheBreeze said:
That was the only way for devs to make Triss choice possible. And it looks pretty artificial if you'll ask me.

Geralt made the wish. So he didnt fall in love with spell.
After spellbreaking Yen said that nothing's changed

So he we are.
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Ah, I see.

And I do agree with that, seems like that quest could've been handled a bit better in terms of writing.
 
Krull32

Krull32

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#2,073
Jul 6, 2015
whitefang131 said:
And I do agree with that, seems like that quest could've been handled a bit better in terms of writing.
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Slowdive

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Jul 6, 2015
Don't know did someone post this one.
Flashbacks from the Witcher II.

If you remember Geralt and Yennefer already had a silent happy life together until Wild Hunt'd arrived.
It explains that "happily ever after" Y+G ending is more than real (I found many people trying to say that it's impossible)


 
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xxgwxx

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Jul 6, 2015
wichat said:
And I guess when Geralt breaks the spell, it just goes back to physical attraction and nothing more.
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After 20+ years of a relationship? After everything they went through? Nope.. That's why this quest is not well written imo.
 
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whitefang131

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Jul 6, 2015
Krull32 said:
/sign
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Feeling stupid to ask, but what does that mean?

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xxgwxx said:
After 20+ years of a relationship? After everything they went through? Nope.. That's why this quest is not well written imo.
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ok 2 things.

1. Why's it say wichat wrote that? Bug?

2. Yeah I agree, because when you cut it off, I don't see what other options there are in terms of why, y'know?
 
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yogsothoth6

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#2,077
Jul 6, 2015
whitefang131 said:
But, if you decide you don't feel for Yen, doesn't that mean it is? Sorry if I misread what that meant in game, but that's how it felt to me.
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The wish in the game have been retcon, altered, to let you the choice.

But if you choose to break with Yen, you can see thing like that : Geralt naturally stop loving Yen, and breaking the wish just let them free to go on their own path without having their fate tied.
Even if it cannot make sense for me, i think it's still better than the "love was artificial and only created by the wish".

( Sorry for my respond time, english is not my first language and i've learn it on music festival, so it might be not perfect...)
 
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Krull32

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Jul 6, 2015
whitefang131 said:
Feeling stupid to ask, but what does that mean?
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Agree with you.
 
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xxgwxx

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#2,079
Jul 6, 2015
whitefang131 said:
Feeling stupid to ask, but what does that mean?

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ok 2 things.

1. Why's it say wichat wrote that? Bug?

2. Yeah I agree, because when you cut it off, I don't see what other options there are in terms of why, y'know?
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Yeah..well it's like on one hand I don't like the quest (if you DON'T romance yen, because if you do - the dialogue is great etc) and what it implies but on the other..I feel like the devs didn't have a choice?
 
Zyvik

Zyvik

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Jul 6, 2015
xxgwxx said:
After 20+ years of a relationship? After everything they went through? Nope.. That's why this quest is not well written imo.
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Yeah,that break up line...It's not only unnecessary cruel,but it also makes no sense.If Yen's feeling for Geralt did not change after the speel was lifted,than why would Geralt's feelings for her change!?And of course it also totally contradicts the story in the books.
 
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