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Yen: Ciri, I want to tell you that now you have two mommies.
Ciri: But what about Geralt?
Yen: Who is Gervant?
Ha!
Gervant rhymes with Servant!
Sex Servant Geralt confirmed...
I will escort myself out again...
holy moly... i agree with you and im treated like a kid?
Just to make it clear when i said "change is good" it was not about Triss but about Yens model (she looks perfect)... peace
@Scholdarr.452
I do get your point, but I still disagree, at least partly.
The main goal of the Introduction in Vizima is to give the player the motivation for the game: finding Ciri.
Talking about Triss is like the worst you can to at this point.
Don't get me wrong: they should talk about that, and way more than they do actually in the game, but not at the beginning. It would fit better later in the game, maybe as part of the Last Wish quest.
Though I do think CDPR could have done the Introduction a bit better in the game. Give them more dialogue options so that players (especiall those that haven't read the books) have a chance to know Yennefer better and why she is so important for Geralt (and Ciri).
And Istredd....just don't mention him again, will you? :animier:
I do get your point, but I still disagree, at least partly.
The main goal of the Introduction in Vizima is to give the player the motivation for the game: finding Ciri.
Talking about Triss is like the worst you can to at this point.
Don't get me wrong: they should talk about that, and way more than they do actually in the game, but not at the beginning. It would fit better later in the game, maybe as part of the Last Wish quest.
Though I do think CDPR could have done the Introduction a bit better in the game. Give them more dialogue options so that players (especiall those that haven't read the books) have a chance to know Yennefer better and why she is so important for Geralt (and Ciri).
And Istredd....just don't mention him again, will you? :animier:
optional choice -> What's the Wild Hunt want from Ciri?
Geralt: "The Wild Hunt, what could it want from Ciri?
Yen: "I've no clue, Geralt. Might've written them to ask but I don't have their address. - I know as much as you do. It must be about her blood, her gift. - I'd prefer not to think about it, really."
Since people might overlook that small passage in my big post I'll repost it here.
Reason: this dialogue just HAS TO BE CUT. It's not just bad, it directly contradicts GAME LORE and book lore..
Instead of explaining anything, this scene does the opposite, ignoring that both characters know exactly what the Wild Hund wants from Ciri and therefore irritating each and every player, no matter the background. Especially Geralt who - according to GAME LORE - has been riding with the Wild Hunt for several years - only because they wanted to find Ciri. And Yennefer's answerd is pathetic as well. "It must be about her blood" isn't something somebody would say who has extensive knowledge about the Elder Blood and what it's good for - like Yennefer should know according to book lore.
Either cut that crap or cut it and give us that damn flashback scene that was supposed to be there...
Geralt: "The Wild Hunt, what could it want from Ciri?
Yen: "I've no clue, Geralt. Might've written them to ask but I don't have their address. - I know as much as you do. It must be about her blood, her gift. - I'd prefer not to think about it, really."
Since people might overlook that small passage in my big post I'll repost it here.
Reason: this dialogue just HAS TO BE CUT. It's not just bad, it directly contradicts GAME LORE and book lore..
Instead of explaining anything, this scene does the opposite, ignoring that both characters know exactly what the Wild Hund wants from Ciri and therefore irritating each and every player, no matter the background. Especially Geralt who - according to GAME LORE - has been riding with the Wild Hunt for several years - only because they wanted to find Ciri. And Yennefer's answerd is pathetic as well. "It must be about her blood" isn't something somebody would say who has extensive knowledge about the Elder Blood and what it's good for - like Yennefer should know according to book lore.
Either cut that crap or cut it and give us that damn flashback scene that was supposed to be there...
Nah,he should be mentioned.Hell,he should be present in the game.Why is it always Yen who has to put up with Geralt's ex-lovers?Geralt should suffer a bit as well
Wasnt the Unicorn enough you monster?Nah,he should be mentioned.Hell,he should be present in the game.Why is it always Yen who has to put up with Geralt's ex-lovers?Geralt should suffer a bit as well
Replace Triss with Fringie and it's gonna be fineI'll try to provoke you
It's the last time I post this gif for today I swear;D
Why not just add Fringilla?Replace Triss with Fringie and it's gonna be fine
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That's not true. The introduction is 60% about politics, 20% about Yennefer and only 20% about Ciri. Something along these lines. Also the game has multiple goals on multiple levels. Finding Ciri is just the "overal" plot goal. Explore the world is for example another goal. Or engage in hard decisions. Or decide with whom Geralt should live his life. A proper introduction should introduce all central topics of the game and take up unclosed ends from previous games to spin them further.
It's absolutely needed at this point. I think you've missed the point why this is important for some. It gives explanation and context why Geralt split up with Triss at the end of TW2 no matter what and it gives context to Geralt's relationship with Yenefer. Both are extremely important to the stoy because this is supposed to be Geralt's story. It's not only about finding Ciri. That's the overall plot. On another level it's about Geralt's closest relationships, which includes Ciri, Yen and Triss. So it's indeed very important for the game.
Waiting until the Last Wish would absolutely miss the point because at this point in the game you've already "closed" the Triss chapter and you already had to decide whether you want to romance her (or not and wait for Yen). A complete newcomer or even somebody who only knows TW2 has too little context for this decision.
It's like applying for two universities and getting one reply far sooner than the other with a time limit to decide before you even get a reply from the other one. Without proper information and context this is a stupid decision. It can only be solved with extensive knowledge on both that enables you to calculate whether it's worth to go the "risky" way and turn down the first offer. You get the picture?
Better how? I made clear and open suggestions. If you really want to criticize them I'd prefer you say in detail why you don't like them...and if not, explaining why another alternative was better.
That's actually an interesting question, showing a fundamental narrative flaw in almost every video game with "romances". In all these games the potential romance partners don't have an own life on their own. They just "wait" for the player to romance them. They don't have any relationships on their own. They almost never reject the player, at least not just because "they don't like".Nah,he should be mentioned.Hell,he should be present in the game.Why is it always Yen who has to put up with Geralt's ex-lovers?Geralt should suffer a bit as well
Games would be way more interesting if somebody would finally wrote complex and self-driven characters for them (and not just plot tools or quest tools or romance tools or whatever other tools)...
Only the Triss part and I said why.
what?
wuu, almost forgot the most important part: :animier:
Luckly, Yen is welll introduced in the game and is not all my imagination....
Of course, the lack of characters in Act 3 is too obvious that it no needs no more comments for my part.
The whole Triss or Yen thing.
Hey people, appreciate this is probably been covered to death but wanted to throw my two cents in because I like to.
Just finished Wither 3 and without going into spoilers for everyone I was just miffed at the total lack of Triss in the entirety of Act 3 despite her being my love interest this play through and generally being an overall much more likeable character than Yenner. Disliked Yen for the following reasons;
1) Gives you the cold shoulder after all those years because of your dalliances with Triss of which she can only know second hand about (and Triss wasn't the only dalliance by far). DESPITE I might add that you already know from Letho that when SHE had amnesia from escaping the Hunt she tried to seduce one of Letho's companion witchers. (Albeit I believe purely for her own selfish ends).
2) Did not think that maybe you and or Triss would like to know she is alive after all these years and instead chooses to hide away in Nilfgard because she is making her own plans and is apparently mad from at best second hand hearsay.
3) Shows up at Kaer Morhen and starts telling everyone what to do as if she owns the place. Generally seems to have zero manners like with Ermion etc.
4) The whole necromancy thing, if you played it you know what I mean and I doubt I was the only one that found that extremely unsettling the lengths she was willing to go to. (Dethmold anyone?)
However I will say that over Triss she does seem to have a confidence and trust in Geralt and Ciri that Triss seems to lack, her responses often to when they have ran off and done something dangerous is well you didn't fail so who cares? Also I do not know about anyone else but Triss never mentioning or reminding you of Yen knowing you had amnesia seemed really odd to me. Especially in W2 where she knows you are trying to get your memories back. Felt a little like if she really cared about you she would be honest.
In general felt like there needed to be at least one candid discussion about your love choices with them all there. It felt the tension with Triss and Yen was building after I told Triss I love her and Yen that the magic was gone and yet they never have it out in front of you. I totally get that a hissy cat fight over you might undermine their strong female characters, but they really should of been arguing over the betrayal of friendship. I got the impression Yen was more mad that Triss had betrayed her, more than the fact she was sleeping with Geralt. Felt like the tension was born of breaking of trust and that Triss feels bad and guilty but does it anyway because she is selfish in her own way too. Just needed something with maybe depending on certain actions earlier and dialogue choices it can end in them staying friends or hating one another etc and that having a real impact in missions like the defending of Kaer Morhen and the final battle.
Felt like why Triss and Geralt split from w2 (if you chose to romance her at all) was not even really covered. The impression I got was Geralt was like I HAVE TO FIND YEN and Triss decided to step aside. A little annoying that you as the player character of Geralt and therefore the chooser of his fate, get no say in it but only really needed a small dialogue when you catch up with Triss or even with Yen asking why Triss isn't with you to explain exactly what happened.
(MINOR SPOILERS) Also as an aside, was a little disappointed that my decision in W2 to go with Iorveth and help Saskia get free of the lodge seemed to have zero impact on w3 other than learning early on that Aedern was crushed. No idea if they are alive, on the run, living happily together. Would of been nice to have at least a Iorveth cameo with one of the pockets of scoia'tael that are about.
I dunno, really loved this game, one of the best I ever played and really appreciate that you cannot have everything but just seemed like Triss was slapped on in the end content with nothing to say or do or even a cut scene of them embracing etc. And there is plenty from W2 that just seemed to not matter at all or even come up. Why bother saving Saskia if she doesn't even come and dragon burn some Hunt for you?
Hey people, appreciate this is probably been covered to death but wanted to throw my two cents in because I like to.
Just finished Wither 3 and without going into spoilers for everyone I was just miffed at the total lack of Triss in the entirety of Act 3 despite her being my love interest this play through and generally being an overall much more likeable character than Yenner. Disliked Yen for the following reasons;
1) Gives you the cold shoulder after all those years because of your dalliances with Triss of which she can only know second hand about (and Triss wasn't the only dalliance by far). DESPITE I might add that you already know from Letho that when SHE had amnesia from escaping the Hunt she tried to seduce one of Letho's companion witchers. (Albeit I believe purely for her own selfish ends).
2) Did not think that maybe you and or Triss would like to know she is alive after all these years and instead chooses to hide away in Nilfgard because she is making her own plans and is apparently mad from at best second hand hearsay.
3) Shows up at Kaer Morhen and starts telling everyone what to do as if she owns the place. Generally seems to have zero manners like with Ermion etc.
4) The whole necromancy thing, if you played it you know what I mean and I doubt I was the only one that found that extremely unsettling the lengths she was willing to go to. (Dethmold anyone?)
However I will say that over Triss she does seem to have a confidence and trust in Geralt and Ciri that Triss seems to lack, her responses often to when they have ran off and done something dangerous is well you didn't fail so who cares? Also I do not know about anyone else but Triss never mentioning or reminding you of Yen knowing you had amnesia seemed really odd to me. Especially in W2 where she knows you are trying to get your memories back. Felt a little like if she really cared about you she would be honest.
In general felt like there needed to be at least one candid discussion about your love choices with them all there. It felt the tension with Triss and Yen was building after I told Triss I love her and Yen that the magic was gone and yet they never have it out in front of you. I totally get that a hissy cat fight over you might undermine their strong female characters, but they really should of been arguing over the betrayal of friendship. I got the impression Yen was more mad that Triss had betrayed her, more than the fact she was sleeping with Geralt. Felt like the tension was born of breaking of trust and that Triss feels bad and guilty but does it anyway because she is selfish in her own way too. Just needed something with maybe depending on certain actions earlier and dialogue choices it can end in them staying friends or hating one another etc and that having a real impact in missions like the defending of Kaer Morhen and the final battle.
Felt like why Triss and Geralt split from w2 (if you chose to romance her at all) was not even really covered. The impression I got was Geralt was like I HAVE TO FIND YEN and Triss decided to step aside. A little annoying that you as the player character of Geralt and therefore the chooser of his fate, get no say in it but only really needed a small dialogue when you catch up with Triss or even with Yen asking why Triss isn't with you to explain exactly what happened.
(MINOR SPOILERS) Also as an aside, was a little disappointed that my decision in W2 to go with Iorveth and help Saskia get free of the lodge seemed to have zero impact on w3 other than learning early on that Aedern was crushed. No idea if they are alive, on the run, living happily together. Would of been nice to have at least a Iorveth cameo with one of the pockets of scoia'tael that are about.
I dunno, really loved this game, one of the best I ever played and really appreciate that you cannot have everything but just seemed like Triss was slapped on in the end content with nothing to say or do or even a cut scene of them embracing etc. And there is plenty from W2 that just seemed to not matter at all or even come up. Why bother saving Saskia if she doesn't even come and dragon burn some Hunt for you?
Of course, the lack of characters in Act 3 is too obvious that it no needs no more comments for my part.
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