Yennefer of Vengerberg (all spoilers)

[UndiscoveredAdv]

I'm probably in the minority but I was generally okay with what we got. For the most part, Yen was as concerned about finding Ciri as Geralt. I agree that the actual interaction between them wasn't much, but I reckon that has more to do with the fact that Geralt is the player character and CDPR chose to focus on player interaction with Ciri (as opposed to NPC-to-NPC interaction which would be the case for Yen).

Not saying it doesn't need improvement, just that I think it's still pretty good despite the lack of said interaction(s).

That's pretty much how I feel as well. What is there is really, really, really, really, really good, but that doesn't mean that there aren't things I'd love to see added or expanded upon. Yennefer is exceptionally well written and portrayed in the game in my opinion, as are all of the characters, but enhancing the interactions with Geralt and each other would only work to make the story even better, in an ideal world where such changes would be feasible.

I'm utterly in love with this game, and I'm incredibly thankful to CDPR for creating such a narrative masterpiece. There's nothing wrong with making honest suggestions though

 

[TreesAreCanon]

I'm probably in the minority but I was generally okay with what we got. For the most part, Yen was as concerned about finding Ciri as Geralt. I agree that the actual interaction between the pair wasn't much, but I reckon that has more to do with the fact that Geralt is the player character and CDPR chose to focus on player interaction with Ciri (as opposed to NPC-to-NPC interaction which would be the case for Yen).

Not saying it couldn't use some improvement, just that I think it's still pretty good despite the lack of said interaction(s).

I absolutely love the game despite all the flaws I see in it, actually the more flaws the better, see why I like Yennefer so much now? >_> Therefore I understand your point of view and even share it, I said numerous times in my previous posts that I don't want nor need any of these changes implemented because I believe the game has its own sacred beauty. CDPR is awesome.

What you see here are just my thoughts about Yennefer in the books and in the games as this is the thread for it.

 

[Kallelinski]

I'm probably in the minority but I was generally okay with what we got. For the most part, Yen was as concerned about finding Ciri as Geralt. I agree that the actual interaction between the pair wasn't much, but I reckon that has more to do with the fact that Geralt is the player character and CDPR chose to focus on player interaction with Ciri (as opposed to NPC-to-NPC interaction which would be the case for Yen).

Not saying it couldn't use some improvement, just that I think it's still pretty good despite the lack of said interaction(s).

I think it wouldn't hurt to see Yennefer brushing Ciri's hair in Kaer Morhen (or vice versa) for instance. There is no dialogue needed, just Geralt passing by and seeing it.

Just witnessing it.

 

[Zyvik]

I think it wouldn't hurt to see Yennefer brushing Ciri's hair in Kaer Morhen (or vice versa) for instance. There is no dialogue needed, just Geralt passing by and seeing it.

Yes,small things like this can sometimes help to establish a relationship between characters,better than words can.

 

[FieryPhoenix7]

I absolutely love the game despite all the flaws I see so I understand your point of view. I said numerous times in my previous posts that I don't want nor need any of these changes implemented because I believe the game has its own sacred beauty. CDPR is awesome.

What you see here are just my thoughts about Yennefer in the books and in the games as this is the thread for it.

Oh I know. We're all exchanging thoughts so it's totally fair game

I think it wouldn't hurt to see Yennefer brushing Ciri's hair in Kaer Morhen (or vice versa) for instance. There is no dialogue needed, just Geralt passing by and seeing it.

I agree. Such a seemingly mundane addition would go a LONG way. You know what they say, "it's the little things."

 

[Sephira]

Seriously, I should stop reading this thread, so much bs in every single page. As Sapkowski said (do you prefer Triss Merigold or Yennefer of Vengerberg?)
"This is not the place for having preferences. Both Triss and Yennefer are fictional characters created to serve the story. Their appearance, their actions, what they say and those who they talk to serve the story and the plot. Both serve the plot, exclusively the plot, not my preferences. Period"

Deal with it. Stop this ridiculous master race. RED, as Sapkowski before, use characters to serve the story and if they wanted to put more Triss is not damn wrong since they are the creators of their stories. Deal with it and stop with this "fucked up" bullshit for God sake.

Hello there, or better, ciao. Where's this master race you're talking about? Here, we discuss character(s), not making a pissing contest. From your post I can say you understand the latter, not what this thread is really about.

If someone doesn't like Yen portrait in the game and explain why, I think it's a full fleshed out opinion. Instead of going mad like that, it'd better if you explain what your concerns are, about the topic. Just to start a peaceful discussion.
Devs put more Triss in W3... what? I think you didn't read all the complaints about her screen-time and romance. However, again, the talk is about the characters and their relationship with others, not how much screen time they had. (sigh, poor Eredin). It's about their behaviour. Behaviour.

I'm pretty much satisfied with Yen content (I had lower expectations) and I liked her, but not Ciri-Yen relationship, or not getting more of her softer side, well this is part of the topic discussed here.

So calm down and let's not go bananas.

 

[Ljesnjanin]

Destroying the lab...

If those two idiots decide to do it, I think Yenn should react....Differently.

 

[FieryPhoenix7]

Also, I find myself wishing that Ciri had called Yennefer 'mom' in-game. She did so in the books and it would have been nice to have that in the game (if only as a way of underscoring the importance of her relationship with Yen).

 

[Sephira]

New screenshot I took, found in my folder.

 

[TreesAreCanon]

Destroying the lab...

If those two idiots decide to do it, I think Yenn should react....Differently.

I felt like that actually made a lot of sense because game Avallac'h was different from the book Avallac'h.

In the books I imagine Yennefer being the one who starts destroying it and Ciri with Geralt eventually joining her later if she doesn't destroy it too quickly.

In the game her reaction felt... appropriate and with the context for me.

 

[Zyvik]

Oh well,even if Ciri doesn't love Yen anymore,Geralt still does if the stupid player didn't chose that stupid break up line in The Last Wish quest of course

 

[FieryPhoenix7]

I don't know which is worse, screwing Yen over and ignoring The Last Wish or doing the quest and telling her you don't want to be with her.

Tsk tsk.

 

[carlos2033]

I think it wouldn't hurt to see Yennefer brushing Ciri's hair in Kaer Morhen (or vice versa) for instance. There is no dialogue needed, just Geralt passing by and seeing it.

Just witnessing it.

why can`t he join too

 

[Zyvik]

I don't know which is worse, screwing Yen over and ignoring The Last Wish or doing the quest and telling her you don't want to be with her.

Tsk tsk.

The first one is less awful.The break up line is stupid,cruel and makes no sense.

 

[Trireme]

So, to change the topic and speed up some things.

What would you want to change exactly?

It can be as general as "interactions with other characters" or as specific as "Yennefer coming with Geralt to the Isle of Mist, because it's her daughter."

We need some character-focused bits where we control Ciri and can actually go talk to major characters. In Kaer Morhen before the battle Geralt is busy with preparations, so they should give the player control of Ciri and let her go talk to Vesemir and the others. Then in Novigrad do something similar while Geralt is busy wandering between worlds or something. Give the player control of Ciri, restrict her movements to the city limits so she can't wander off to Velen or something silly like that, and let her go talk to people.

 

[xxgwxx]

I don't know which is worse, screwing Yen over and ignoring The Last Wish or doing the quest and telling her you don't want to be with her.

Tsk tsk.

The latter ofc

 

[TreesAreCanon]

In polish "Trudna miłość" means "hard love". CDPR used that sentence, at least in polish language.

I would never say relation between Yen and Geralt is toxic. I think thats to harsh. They are arguing with each other, dont agree with everything, still they have strong fellings to eachother. Both dont want to say openly about what they fell. I think both are afraid at some point about that emotion. Everything opens up because of one person: Ciri. She is the "goal on the end of the road", because of her "the limits of possibilities" are broken for both Geralt and Yen. Specialy for Yennefer. After Thaned, when Geralt openly says "I love you" to Yen, everything changes. Last Wish quest from W3 is just an ice on the cake, highlighting their relationship.

Thanks for another awesome post. I'm seriously considering using Polish as the main language for the games, seems like I'm missing too much.

The Last Wish, The Bounds of Reason, A Shard of Ice and Something More. That's Geralt and Yennefer. Nobody should ever mention toxicity, that translation is just ignorant and stupid. /facepalm

 

[Ljesnjanin]

I felt like that actually made a lot of sense because game Avallac'h was different from the book Avallac'h.

In the books I imagine Yennefer being the one who starts destroying it and Ciri with Geralt eventually joining her later if she doesn't destroy it too quickly.

In the game her reaction felt... appropriate and with the context for me.

I don't know...

Not a big deal, but I expected more than this:

 

[Sephira]

I didn't say that. You can criticize everything and have a preference for Yen or Triss, My point is that statements like "they fucked up this character" "they save this other characters" are bullshit since they are based on your subjective idea of how characters should be treated according to your preferences. How the hell can the author himself fuck up his own creation served for his own story? These are just biased comments from a Triss hater or a Yen fanboy. Just enjoy every character....

I truly understand that by saying "fucking up her character" it was meant to say what happened in Tower of the Swallow, it doesn't mean ruining a character but saying that his/her he/she fucked up things and his/her behaviour. Having discussed this topic before, it means this. Really.

Nor Yen or Triss are fucked up characters in the books in the way you understood before. And personally, there's a character for me which is fucked up, but I won't say who is and why here, because it would be OT.

 

[xxgwxx]

I don't know...

Not a big deal, but I expected more than this:

To give yet another reason for some idiots people to call her a 'bitch'? Yeah..just imagine "omg she won't even let them have some fun!"