Yennefer of Vengerberg (all spoilers)

[Kallelinski]

There's one thing that really bothers me about the situation with necromancy.Geralt can suggest Triss to use necromancy on Menge,but she says ' i haven't sanken that low just yet'.Really?So Triss is low enough to torture and kill a guy,but not low enough to use necromancy,like it's some Ultimate Evil.And then when Yen suggests to use necromancy Geralt objects.Why!?He suggested it to Triss himself!

Yeah, there was also necromancy in Witcher 2 and as far as i remember, everybody was fine with that, even Geralt.

It's not like Yennefer was trying to raise an undead army. She didn't even like what she did, not at all, hell, you can even see it in her face. But she had to, because otherwise they wouldn't have known what happened with Ciri:

and this happens, if you ask about the corpse before asking about her well-being:

Does this face look like she had fun doing that? I only interpretate it this way, but it looks more like remorse for me. She did the bad part, while Geralt is just standing and judging her.

Well Said. I believe CDPR failed to flesh out the real Yen character. Those who has not read the books have no idea what they are talking about. I read the books in betwixt the wait for W3. Unless people get to know what Triss did in the books they won't understand where this sudden redemption pathos of Triss coming from. instead they would take it as part of her characteristic making Yennefer the one who is intruding in the relationship between Gearlt & Triss. for those who have at least played w1 & w2 could guess the real scenario given the amount of character backdrop available over the net. but as you said for the newcomers it is a mess.

Some argues that the game and the book stands apart but that is not true at all, 'cause else there would be no witcher 3 in the 1st palce.

It's also false to assume that Yen-fans doesn't like Triss, that's not at all the case. I like her and as far as i see it, almost everybody here does so too, more or less

 

[Charcharo]

Tis more like the plot favouring Yen and the NPCs (mostly) liking Triss.

Overall both require reworking/enrichment.

 

[xxgwxx]

Also that whole deal with UMA. Christ, it was exhausting, she looked like she was going to faint (i think she almost did, it lasted for at least few hours). But does anyone appreciate it? Naah, of course not - let's talk some more shit about her. Ugh.

 

[Slowdive]

It's not like Yennefer was trying to raise an undead army.

Just imagine Yen as a Necropolis hero in upcoming Might & Magic Heroes VII. Riding her DEAD unicorn and leading the army of zombies ^_^

 

[Abjatha]

Doing an autopsy is fine, but asking couple questions from a corpse is a huge moral issue in order to save someone life? This never made any sense to me.

 

[Krull32]

Hui.

@Kallelinski

This is a very good post! Took me a while, but it was worth it. Cant give you enough "Thanks" for it.
Only one thing i have to say...
Agree.....with every word !!

The sad thing is, i don't think someone important will respond to it..
Some "Tweaks" here and there would not be bad too.





And thank you for your effort.

 

[xxgwxx]

Doing an autopsy is fine, but asking couple questions from a corpse is a huge moral issue in order to save someone life? This never made any sense to me.

I will seriously never understand this fuss about necromancy. When I was playing I was like 'ugh, that's creepy' and then i forgot about it. Damn, it's the Witcher, you kill an infinite number of people here and constantly have to make hard choices and people are mad about a DEAD man? Especially when you know the reasons behind it.

Maybe I'm just heartless.

 

[Kallelinski]

Also that whole deal with UMA. Christ, it was exhausting, she looked like she was going to faint (i think she almost did, it lasted for at least few hours). But does anyone appreciate it? Naah, of course not - let's talk some more shit about her. Ugh.

That gone down yesterday, but man, such a shame they cut out the scene, where Geralt makes food for her, would have been hilarious.

So, tell me what you see here? Mercy? No, it's vengeance.

Wondering what people would say, if Yennefer was that...

In any case i can understand why Triss killed him and i don't judge her for doing so, Yennefer would probably have done the same, but probably not until she got every little information out of him and then vaporize him or transforming him into a pig, so he can get slaughtered just like one. The same treatment he gave sorcerers.

 

[Charcharo]

That gone down yesterday, but man, such a shame they cut out the scene, where Geralt makes food for her, would have been hilarious.



So, tell me what you see here? Mercy? No, it's vengeance.

Wondering what people would say, if Yennefer was that...

In any case i can understand why Triss killed him and i don't judge her for doing so, Yennefer would probably have done the same, but probably not until she got every little information out of him and then vaporize him or transforming him into a pig

I would have done the same. Sand dan Glokta style...

 

[xxgwxx]

That gone down yesterday, but man, such a shame they cut out the scene, where Geralt makes food for her, would have been hilarious.

So, tell me what you see here? Mercy? No, it's vengeance.

Wondering what people would say, if Yennefer was that...

In any case i can understand why Triss killed him and i don't judge her for doing so, Yennefer would probably have done the same, but probably not until she got every little information out of him.

Just imagine having Yen here instead of Triss - covered in someone's' blood. People would go mad. Whereas Triss is this innocent cute gal
.

 

[541K4T]

Agreed. I like Triss too. Breaking up with Triss was not easy at all. the heartbreak on Triss's face was hard to watch. the whole issue of people bashing Yen is aggravated by some out of place & out of character dialog options on Geralts part.

 

[Krull32]

Wondering what people would say, if Yennefer was that...

not hard to guess that
Always the same....~~

 

[yogsothoth6]

I read this tread every day, always with pleasure.

But this is the first time i feel the need to post something, and this will be a huge Thanks for your post @Kallelinski, you perfectly nailed it.

 

[bichitogamer]

Wow, I leave the forum for a few days and I find myself reading more than 60 pages today! lol Great job guys

I've read CDPR is going to do some changes on Triss... Why not with Yen too? Because her relationships with Geralt and Ciri need to be fixed too, among other things. I didn't like that many characters in the game (Lambert, Esker, even Vesemir or Dikjstra) tell Geralt things like "why you choose Yennefer?" I don't understand.

The Yennefer we know from the books can be too brave, jealous and manipulative (like any other sorceress - including Triss) but she is also a BEAUTIFUL person who loves deeply Geralt and Ciri and is willing to give her life to save them (we saw that in Lady of the lake). And in this game, I feel that CDPR didn't show at all this softer side of her... No interactions with Ciri (her DAUGTHER), many rude verbal fights with Geralt and hard actions like negromancy, stealing the mask, etc etc. SO many people -non book readers- happily and quickly think she is a bitch?? How is that? Or her romance with Geralt? We don't see and know better Yennefer after you've already had the chance to romance Triss instead... That's not fair.

I said it once and I say it again, CDPR has not developed Yennefer 100% right. So, if Triss needs content fixed, Yennefer does it too. Even more than Triss.

PS: Sorry for my english XD

 

[Abjatha]

So, tell me what you see here? Mercy? No, it's vengeance.

I can kind of understand someone losing their control in such situation, it's one scene where she was being tortured. There's another one where you can let her kill defenseless spy in cold blood instead wiping his memory.

 

[Kallelinski]

Sand dan Glokta style...

I haven't read much, but even

Still haven't read the three stand-alone books by Abercrombie.

 

[xxgwxx]

Agreed. I like Triss too. Breaking up with Triss was not easy at all. the heartbreak on Triss's face was hard to watch. the whole issue of people bashing Yen is aggravated by some out of place & out of character dialog options on Geralts part.

Geralt could defend Yen to Lambert and Eskel I guess. But it's still not enough. Book Geralt never gave a flying f*ck about some people not appreciating their relationship and it should be shown in the game as well.

 

[541K4T]

Exactly. It seems like he is trying to fit into the so called society, trying too hard to gain their appreciation.

Anyway felt so good after I beat the shit out of Madman Lugos during the Feast.

 

[Charcharo]

I haven't read much, but even

Still haven't read the three stand-alone books by Abercrombie.

Then you understood enough
Menge wont like that though

Abercrombie is quite damn good. I really like his work. Do read em! !

 

[xxgwxx]

Exactly. It seems like he is trying to fit into the so called society, trying too hard to gain their appreciation.

Anyway felt so good after I beat the shit out of Madman Lugos during the Feast.

Generally I feel that game Geralt is too nice and polite sometimes...

Yeah, beating that idiot was awesome !