Great post, we could use some more cute moments. It seems a little easy to forget the kind of history Yen and Geralt have together, and how well they know each other. Having more moments like these to establish that Yennefer isn't exactly the heartless bitch most take her to be, that she indeed does have a "softer" side would be warmly welcomed.
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I really enjoy reading this thread, you guys have all got some great suggestions. I personally loved Yennefer in the game and thought that she represented the book character well in the sense that it 'felt' like Yennefer to me. But I can definitely see what you mean; I think she would have really benefited from having some more kindhearted, motherly, compassionate scenes, especially with Ciri, because the relationship they have is one of my favorites in fiction. Interacting with children in general or showing some more of the fun banter between her and Geralt (a la that pun contest) would have been brilliant.
The more I read these forums the more I realise that the biggest thing people want is more interaction with the lead characters: Triss, Yennefer, Ciri, Dandelion and Eredin being the most frequently mentioned.
The more I read these forums the more I realise that the biggest thing people want is more interaction with the lead characters: Triss, Yennefer, Ciri, Dandelion and Eredin being the most frequently mentioned.
Personally, I don't think a lot of dialogue with Eredin is needed, I think he should say more when we see him, but not necessarily conversate with Geralt, if he's the ambitious asshole Avallac'h paints him as, why would he bother?
I think he worked reasonably well as an antagonist force of nature but people are comparing him to his very chatty-self in the Witcher 1's climax.
yes game & books are completely different form of art but in case of Witcher the books & games compliments each other heavily, relatively at a much higher rate than other average cases like these. though you can easilly say W1 & W2 having a very thin straw linking the games & books, but without the books Witcher 3 does not happen at all. Read the books you will understand what I am saying. Besides nobody is forcing you to like Yen , but if someone rejects a notion rightway without having enough knowledge related to the topic is a sign of bigotry.
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Yeah to me i feel she was presented pretty much spot on. Think there were motherly moments and further ones were probably complicated by us being Geralt not Ciri for most of the game. Maybe a motherly catchup could have been implied without being seen. Think people are always going to want greater interaction with core cast.
That's a good point, because we're playing as Geralt we won't see any scenes that take place exclusively between Yen and Ciri, or indeed Ciri and Triss or Triss and Yen. That said, it'd be nice if these interactions were implied a little bit more. Though overall I think CDPR did a fantastic job with the relationships and dialogue. My main issue concerns the ending and the lack of closure for many of the characters, that's where I think more interactions would be especially beneficial.
To be honest though, it's easy to say what I would have added/changed, but at the end of the day this is still one of the best (heck I'd actually say it's the best) games I have ever played, and one of the most immersive and satisfying narratives I've experienced.
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Agreed. This is pretty much the opposite of late-books Yennefer. As I've said before it even seems to me like CDPR nerfed Yennefer on purpose to make Triss more of a valid option and more attractive in general.
I think of of the worst scenes with Yennefer in the game is the one on Skellige with zombie Skjall. This scene - how it is directed and how Yennefer and the priestesses act and interact - more or less completely ignores one of Yennefer's core scenes in the books. In Yen's hero journey in the books the scene in Freya's temple on Skellige is pretty much her final katharsis, the moment in which she realizes that she has to be ready to sacrifice everything for those whom she loves. I agree with you 100%, I don't buy how that was transported to the game and especially how Yennefer acts in the game towards the temple and the priestesses (and vice versa).
The only aspect CDPR imo pretty much nailed (at least within the limitations of a video game) is her interaction with Geralt as long as you stay with her. And even then it has flaws because they make her overly secretive for no reason (which also ignores much of Yen's development in the books).
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The games don't compliment the books at all. This direction of influence doesn't work. But the games are based on the books. They take the world, the characters and the events described in the books and literally build upon them. CDPR didn't create an "alternative reality", they envisioned their games to be a continuation of the books. So logical, visual and narrative inconsistencies should be at least explained. If that's not the case it naturally leads to immersion breaking and lower levels of acceptance for everyone who knows (and likes) the books. That video games and books are different forms of art is competely irrelevant for that. It doesn't change how the games are envisioned and it doesn't change how people feel about these inconsistencies.
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After reading the almost 20 pages I missed I have to say:
@Kallelinski @Kaldea @Scholdarr.452 @Willowhugger thank you for your opinions. It reminds me what I liked about the game and what not, and about The Last Wish... I didn't think about the "negative" side of that quest... till now. Dammit, as I said some time ago in that famous thread which was the home sweet home for all Yennefer and Triss fans, the last wish is not love! Yet sometimes the game acts like it is.
Thanks to you all, would like to see your opinions linked in first post. Maybe not the entire post, since it would lead to lenght issues, but at least a link.
@Kallelinski @Kaldea @Scholdarr.452 @Willowhugger thank you for your opinions. It reminds me what I liked about the game and what not, and about The Last Wish... I didn't think about the "negative" side of that quest... till now. Dammit, as I said some time ago in that famous thread which was the home sweet home for all Yennefer and Triss fans, the last wish is not love! Yet sometimes the game acts like it is.
Thanks to you all, would like to see your opinions linked in first post. Maybe not the entire post, since it would lead to lenght issues, but at least a link.
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Well, IMO to work properly as a force of nature he needs to personate a real challenge for the hero. As I've said before, just being plain evil is imo not enough, especially not for a force of nature kind of villain. As a force of nature he should represent a higher principle of duality like chaos or a core aspect of human sins like temptation. The way Eredin is represented in the game lacks the mental challenge for the hero. He's just a physical "video gamey" challenge that needs to be overcome = killed. But he doesn't challenge anything Geralt (or Ciri) believes in or are tempted to do, like a good force of nature villain would do.
I mean, most video game villain work that way, just as physical obstacles to overcome. But I think CDPR should be better than that. I think they actually have the skills and the source material to create more complex villains who are able to challenge the hero on more levels and not just on the physical one.
I mean, most video game villain work that way, just as physical obstacles to overcome. But I think CDPR should be better than that. I think they actually have the skills and the source material to create more complex villains who are able to challenge the hero on more levels and not just on the physical one.
Of course. As usualJust look at this face
I wonder what is she thinking about.She's probably planning another mass murder;D
No, but seriously. She's the prettiest.
Yeah, definitelyIstredd?
Probably recalling their good times. Too bad it's Geralt who's sitting next to her.Haha I loved this part.Yen and her sex slave
"Ok, I've had enough of kissing you. Now bye, I want to read"
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