Yennefer of Vengerberg (all spoilers)

[Krull32]

CDPR has obviously played way too many Bioware games...

That must hurt a lot

 

[Scholdarr.452]

That must hurt a lot

:2guns:

At least I did not say Bethesda games. Oh, wait....

:banned:

 

[wright1978]

Well, hopefully in future content, they can make Yennefer a bit less....again, I keep coming back to this, Morrigan.

And maybe Triss a little less Leliana.

What's next, a French accent or singing? No, they gave the latter to Priscilla who has a lovely London one.

If there's new content i want it to be consistent with what's already there. While i can see there's certain characteristics of Morrigan(DAO & DAI) that Yen shares i don't consider her to be bad or out of character given the situation. Leliana's initial sweetness is certainly something Triss shares alongside red hair but beyond that the comparison doesn't really ring true for me as someone who has experienced the full arc of both characters.

 

[Krull32]

:2guns:

At least I did not say Bethesda games. Oh, wait....

:banned:

that goes to far :shock:

 

[xxgwxx]

If there's new content i want it to be consistent with what's already there. While i can see there's certain characteristics of Morrigan(DAO & DAI) that Yen shares i don't consider her to be bad or out of character given the situation. Leliana's initial sweetness is certainly something Triss shares alongside red hair but beyond that the comparison doesn't really ring true for me as someone who has experienced the full arc of both characters.

Yeah, I also wouldn't go that far to call Yennefer Morrigan 2.0
All I ask is some additional little dialogue or some changes, like Yen/Ciri interaction etc and I will be happy

 

[Scholdarr.452]

Can't wait for the EE of DOS. Already envisioned my party...

 

[Ljesnjanin]

DOS

:unworthy:

Amazing game.

 

[Krull32]

Never played Divinity ,maybe when the EE arrvies

 

[Scholdarr.452]

Never played Divinity ,maybe when the EE arrvies

You owe that to yourself, believe me.

And it's perfect for a Geralt + Yen party. You can constantly let them disagree with each other..

 

[Krull32]

You owe that to yourself, believe me

Hm...I give it a chance as soon the EE is released.

 

[Kallelinski]

urgh, i can't get this to work. I already made a tl;dr version, but it still gives me that internal error...i can't shorten it enough

 

[xxgwxx]

urgh, i can't get this to work. I already made a tl;dr version, but it still gives me that internal error...i can't shorten it enough

So maybe just a link?

 

[Scholdarr.452]

urgh, i can't get this to work. I already made a tl;dr version, but it still gives me that internal error...i can't shorten it enough

Try to copy one half the post and cut it. Publish the first part of the post. Edit the post and copy the cut second part in. Publish the whole thing again.

 

[Kinley]

Try to copy one half the post and cut it. Publish the first part of the post. Edit the post and copy the cut second part in. Publish the whole thing again.

That doesn't work since the character limit is still there.

@Kallelinski just post something and I'll copy your post. Then you can edit both accordingly.

 

[Sagitarii]

Can't wait for the EE of DOS. Already envisioned my party...

You better change those Yennefer colors right away!

 

[Scholdarr.452]

That doesn't work since the character limit is still there.

@Kallelinski just post something and I'll copy your post. Then you can edit both accordingly.

I've experienced that internal server error many times even with quite short posts. So I thought I could be a different problem here than just the length of the post. You usually just get a message that the post is too long but not real internal error in that case. Anyway, if you can help him that easily it's just a theoretical discusson (although I'd like to know what causes that interntal server error...)

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You better change those Yennefer colors right away!

Of course!!! Only black and white for Yen! But you can't do so in the editor, only in the game itself.

 

[Kallelinski]

http://pastebin.com/M9aVwaXz

Update 5th July 2015:
We had so many good posts in the past weeks here, many of them are either praises or compliments, but some of them are also critical and worrying, and i (and many others) think that those posts should be seen by more people than just those, who can keep up with this thread. Those posts shouldn't be lost in here, so i will try to link to a few of them here at the start.

If you want to see the full post, click on the link above it.

Critical and worrying posts:
My own rant with 20 red points (and people are telling me this needs to be seen more)

Okay, to be honest the more I read nowadays here and there, the more I get angry about the whole situation in the meanwhile. It’s great that CDPR actually want to rework on the approach of Triss, but what about other characters and in particular Yennefer?

Kaldea

Kallelinski's post summed up why I was as unhappy about Yennefer's part in the game as I was. At first I was very happy, mostly because she was finally in a game and they did her justice appearance-wise. They got her attitude down perfectly and I ended up waiting the whole game for the rest of her character to show. Only bits and pieces made it in and I was really disappointed with that. I feel like CDPR was way too focused on getting her right at face value and her sensitive side suffered from it.

Scholdarr.452

I think there is another problem with the games (not only TW3) that deeply influences how relationships work in the games and how they feel. The games miss to show Geralt's internal conflict, his weakness, his insecurity.

Tbh I think that CDPR "nerfed" Yennefer on purpose in order to make her less attractive (not visually) than she would be if they just depicted late-book Yennefer the way she is. I man, the Triss fans already complain about Yennefer and how she important she suddenly is in TW3. And for somebody who doesn't know the book this is a perfectly viable compliant since Triss is indeed a very important NPC in the games. But for book lovers on the other hand, and especially Yen fans, that feels weird as well because it's just kind of inconsistent. Especially the relationship between Ciri and Yennefer feels greatly reduced, probably to make Triss a viable option.

It's really hard for CDPR, I think. Too many different expectations from different groups of people with different knowledge...

Willowhugger or here or here

Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of the Yennefer in the games as a representation of the book version because I think they went overboard in trying to establish her as ruthless in pursuit of protecting Ciri because the qualities I most remember about Yennefer from the books are her compassion and fundamental decency. She's a woman who deeply cares about children in general, has a deep friendship with the Sisters of Melitele, is protective of nonhumans as well as the weak, and loathes the politics that the other Sorcerers are neck deep in.

General opinions about Yennefer:
dzbrown with 16 thanks and 12 red points

I should first preface this by saying that I have only played the games and have not read the books (they are on order). I also chose Yennefer in the game. I'm also wondering why there are so many posts about Yennefer v. Triss on here and other forums as if people need to justify why they choose one or the other. In the interest of being mildly hypocritical, I am just throwing my hat in with the rest of you.

That being said, I felt Yennefer was a much deeper character. Let me explain what I mean: Triss came off as being more of a 'game character', that is, typically cute, friendly, and, for the most part, riding the coat tails of our much beloved protagonist, Geralt. This combined with her good looks and the assumed ginger obsession, probably seems like the more obvious choice for a lot of people, hence the great lengths people are going through in order to acquire additional content for her. I can understand this. But, and maybe this is just strange game mechanics, there are instances where Triss' character seems flat, one-dimensional and lacking depth due to her more 'game character' attributes. You don't really get a sense, at least in the third game, that there is a rich history between them even though there is, at least according to the games (which is what I am drawing references from)..

jockmick

Oh, I haven't noticed this thread. Seems like a lot of my posts lately, which has been about Yen, could have been posted here. I guess we can treat this thread as a collective thread for Yennefer, where we can write what we think about her.

I should start by saying that I have read all the books. I love Yennefer, in the books and in the game. I think she is a very misunderstood character by non-book readers. She might come off as cold and bitchy, and sure she bosses Geralt around a bit, but in my opinion this is just a facade and a defense in order to hide who she truly is.

luc0s

Yennefer to me is like an older mature married woman with a bit of a diva complex and unconditional love for her husband (Geralt) and daughter (Ciri).
Sure, Yen and Geralt never actually got married, but their relationship dynamic feels like that of and old married couple, which I think is fitting considering the fact they're both pretty old (they're both approaching their 100th birthday!) and they have been together for ~20 years. They really know each other through and through, they've seen all the good and all the bad stuff, with both of them accepting the bad stuff and learned to live with it. Their love for each other is what I'd call true unconditional love.

latios507

I felt in love with Yen & Geralt's relationship. I've personally been in a relationship with someone who's very close to Yen's personality & her sarcasm (only lacking in terms of that violet eyes), and I enjoyed it all the way. Hence the moment I looked at Yen, I knew she's the one.
It's not a toxic relationship but a healthy relationship. Simply put, It's like a roller coaster ride (w/ full of surprises at every corner). You get to see many different perspective and even end up in situation where you least expected.

NevaEilhart

As a mother Yennefer probably aknowledges that too, hence why I don't think she'd be over worried about Ciri being a Witcher (it's a different matter for the Emperess ending, since it's well known in this world that politics are far more dangerous than the next wyvern). The thing I like about the game is that Yennefer does grow up too. They did a pretty good job to make her react like her book counterpart at the beginning, but by the end of the game she makes decisions proving she's changed : the way the prepares the "aftermath" by progressingly stepping away from politics and the lodge, the way she doesn't fight anymore for petty power related struggles (she even bows in a way to Philippa). That's why I think Yen wouldn't want her daughter to become a member of the lodge.

 

[Kinley]

It does seem to be a problem on the forum side. I'll contact the admins about it.

 

[Kallelinski]

Well, i can also post all parts here, one after another, just someone has replace the first post then

 

[Kinley]

Well, i can also post all parts here, one after another, just someone has replace the first post then

Working on it.

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Can't edit the OP at all not even with one line of text. I notified the admin so hopefully they'll fix it soon.