Your favourite Witcher 3 villain?

[Maerd]

- Participated in the assassination of Vizimir II and Demavend

Like those guys were charming characters... it's a political intrigue for you. No one is saint there.

- Helped turn Radovid into a sociopath

I object, that's purely CDPR's doing, not Phillipa. There's already a ton of complaints about Radohitler's portrayal in the game.

Hexed Saskia with mind-controlling magic

Oh, yeah, she did. She did it not to torture Saskia or do something horrible with her. Saskia essentially magically fell in love in Philippa. Yeah, Philippa's cunning and I'm pretty sure she pissed off Saskia's fans but does it counts for a villain? Maybe Geralt is also a villain to magically bind Yen to himself via Djinn's magic?

- Along with SIle, screwed Geralt and Triss over really hard in TW2

Philippa and Sile were framed by Nilfgaardian spies, same as Geralt. They didn't screw Geralt and Triss in TW2. What are you talking about? If I were given a choice by CDPR I would actually have helped Sile all the way from Chapter 1 instead of Roche or Iorveth, whom both are not quite likable characters for me.

- Blackmails Geralt at the end of TW3 to become the new Imperial Court Wizard

That's not a blackmail. She's just scheming again. Blackmail is when you threaten to reveal somebody's misdeeds to lower their status but won't do that in exchange for a favor or money.

 

[Willowhugger]

Oh, yeah, she did. She did it not to torture Saskia or do something horrible with her. Saskia essentially magically fell in love in Philippa. Yeah, Philippa's cunning and I'm pretty sure she pissed off Saskia's fans but does it counts for a villain? Maybe Geralt is also a villain to magically bind Yen to himself via Djinn's magic?

That would make her a magical rapist, which is WORSE than just mind-controlling her. I also think it's, thankfully, just mind-control. In any case, I'm not sure there's any world where it doesn't count that taking the plucky heroine and making them your slave for political power doesn't make you a villain. Then again, I like Philippa as a villain.

She's more fun as a power-hungry evil-doer.

 

[Trireme]

Definitely the Crones- creepy as hell, great environment and music to go along with them.

 

[Scryar]

Menge, Junior and Imlerith fullfilled their purpose.
Djikstra was greatly written till they messed up his character in the last 30 seconds before he dies (or kills Roche/Ves)
Radovid was great in Witcher 1+2 but they screwed him in Witcher 3
Caranthir was underdeveloped
Eredin... let's just not talk about him. Probably the worst villain ever written
The crones were fantastic, They deserve a own thread. My only complaint is the lame sabbath, but otherwise everything about them was just awesome.

 

[carlos2033]

Along with SIle, screwed Geralt and Triss over really hard in TW2

It`s actually Emhyr, Letho and Shilard who screwed Geralt and Triss in W2

 

[Maerd]

That would make her a magical rapist, which is WORSE than just mind-controlling her. I also think it's, thankfully, just mind-control.

Watch here starting at 12:30, Philippa explains the spell herself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE_CDAqKGuM

 

[OutgoingHermit]

She also lied about what she was doing, as Geralt discovers if you loot a certain book.

Like those guys were charming characters... it's a political intrigue for you. No one is saint there.

I object, that's purely CDPR's doing, not Phillipa. There's already a ton of complaints about Radohitler's portrayal in the game.

Oh, yeah, she did. She did it not to torture Saskia or do something horrible with her. Saskia essentially magically fell in love in Philippa. Yeah, Philippa's cunning and I'm pretty sure she pissed off Saskia's fans but does it counts for a villain? Maybe Geralt is also a villain to magically bind Yen to himself via Djinn's magic?

Philippa and Sile were framed by Nilfgaardian spies, same as Geralt. They didn't screw Geralt and Triss in TW2.

1. Vizimir wasn't a bad king. Philippa's schemes put a really bad king on the throne.

2. CDPR designed and wrote the games, so what does it matter if that was how they wrote it? To be honest, I think the games present a better narrative in some respects than the novels do. So i don't dismiss anything out of hand because "it's from the games." Heck, that's what we're talking about here in the first place.

3. Geralt's Last Wish, although horribly unfair to Yennefer, was done with good intentions. She was going to be killed (immediately) if he didn't make that wish. Saskia is in no such danger.

4. Sile and Philippa conspired to have Demavend killed so that they could set up their own puppet state in Aedirn. When Letho went rogue and added Foltest's head to the mix, they were more than happy to have the blame pinned on Geralt while they tried to take advantage of that fact. See: the megascope conversation between Triss and Philippa at the end of Chapter 1 (if you gave Iorveth his sword back).

They were NOT framed. The only frame job was when Letho told Triss that they also contracted the assassination of Foltest. They were 100% behind the murder of Demavend and helped Letho carry it out.

 

[Maerd]

1. Vizimir wasn't a bad king. Philippa's schemes put a really bad king on the throne.

2. CDPR designed and wrote the games, so what does it matter if that was how they wrote it? To be honest, I think the games present a better narrative in some respects than the novels do. So i don't dismiss anything out of hand because "it's from the games." Heck, that's what we're talking about here in the first place.

TW2 and TW3 had different lead writers. TW2 characters' development was stronger than in TW3. Therefore, it's fair to point out inconsistencies in characters from TW1 and TW2 when they suddenly were changed in TW3. If TW3 characters were, in general, better written than in TW2 then yes, you could have a point but it's objectively not the case. Radohitler is purely Marcin Blacha's fault and no one else's.

3. Geralt's Last Wish, although horribly unfair to Yennefer, was done with good intentions. She was going to be killed (immediately) if he didn't make that wish. Saskia is in no such danger.

As you know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. He could make ANY wish, it was not obligatory to bind Yen to him. Besides Philippa also saved Saskia's life from slow and painful death from poison. So, let's not descend into hypocrisy and wish luck to both Philippa and Saskia who are going to be a heck of a sexy couple.

4. Sile and Philippa conspired to have Demavend killed so that they could set up their own puppet state in Aedirn. When Letho went rogue and added Foltest's head to the mix, they were more than happy to have the blame pinned on Geralt while they tried to take advantage of that fact. See: the megascope conversation between Triss and Philippa at the end of Chapter 1 (if you gave Iorveth his sword back).

They conspired to kill Demavend because he was everdrunk and could not competently rule. Quote: "A failure of a king" This is the canon of TW2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB_1hGDuG58 (Radovid: young and impetuous; Henselt: cruel and racist warlord; Demavend: incompetent drunkard)

Then Letho didn't go rogue, it was his plan from the beginning. Framing Geralt was an accident because the plan was to blame the Lodge. Philippa just doesn't care about Geralt it's not her intention to put the blame on Geralt and harm him. Here's the conversation starting from 3:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1glOAAg3X8

They were NOT framed. The only frame job was when Letho told Triss that they also contracted the assassination of Foltest. They were 100% behind the murder of Demavend and helped Letho carry it out.

Yeah, right. And Geralt also was NOT framed. The only frame job was when Letho left Geralt alone with Foltest's body. /sarcasm

 

[luc0s]

I didn't include him because I don't think he is a villain from Geralt's perspective.Maybe the same could be said about Djikstra but in opposite to Emhyr he directly turns against you and you only survive if you kill him.

Yeah, Emhyr isn't a villain in TW3.

I voted for Whoreson Junior. He was a proper scumbag who I really hated. That scene where Geralt beats the shit out of him felt so good. Killing him after that too.

In fact I don't think I'll ever be able to not kill Whoreson Jr. He's probably gonna die in every single playthrough of mine. Besides, Dudu impersonating Whoreson is just too great to pass up.

 

[TouPoutsou]

Reading that pathetic list made miss Letho so much....

Menge - too insignificant
Whoreson - OK for a side-vilain, nothing more
Whilt Hunt pack - Don;t get me started. I has been discussed to death in other threads. They feel more like stupid Lord of the Rings orks, rather than the intellgent elves we came to know from the books
Radovid - Cartoonish
Dijkstra - Was not even supposed to be a vilain. They fucked up one of the most interesting characters in the books. Possibly the only guy in "politics" that Geralt respected and even trusted in the end.

So i voted The Crones. Good but not even close to being good ENOUGH for a witcher game. Especially after giving us Letho on the previous game, or Emhyr for that matter, because ultimately, he was the one of whom's behalf Letho did what he did.

 

[vivaxardas2015]

There are no villains in TW3, just some people/entities are worse than others. I started to dislike Dijkstra, and feel very good about killing him. I really hate three ugly bitches, crones. Whoreson Junior is just a minor prick. WH, well... I'll go with a book version, and they have their reasons, so they are not worse than anyone else. I guess I'll go with crones.

 

[Redemyr]

Celeb menge was a good antagonist, smart too. And as much as it pained me too play the Triss torture scene, the interaction between was very good. You can even tell he didn't completely buy Geralt's story, as he burns the papers before going to check up on the other room. Sadly he was completely underused.

Whoreson Junior was pure evil, and in a way too simple. I did enjoy having Geralt beat the crap out of him, then fighting him again as Ciri, then killing him lol.

Wild Hunt. They could have either added more interactions with them, so we know their backstory a lot better. Or go the other route and keep us in the dark but make their presence as an overwhelming, unstoppable force be felt more. As it is, they just raided two villages (war did much worse) and were defeated by a falling bridge at one point.

Radovid is too focused on trying to find some deeper meaning on a game of chess so he doesn't have time to be a good villain.

Why is Sigi even on that list?

So as many here, I'll have to go with the Crones. Powerful, evil, the way they were presented was awesome. Good interactions. Good boss fight. Honorable in their own twisted way. Respectable and ancient. Creppy as fuck.

Can't we add the king's window from Denmark? At least she had some depth. Still would vote for the crones.

And if we want to go meta, let's add money limitations and time constrains, since they were what ruined most of the third act.

 

[svizcy]

I think it's hard to actually say someone is villian and other isn't.

Bassicly if you look at it from non-Geralt pov: Eredin wants to save his own people by teleporting them to another world that isn't affected by White frost yet.
Radovid also belives that he is doing the right thing (eventhou i did vote for him here, cause he is mostly resembling certain German leader durring WW2).
Crones are only ones in this game that are pure evil imho.
But i can't bring myself to thinking Djikstra as being a villian, he has one of best reassons to do what he is doing from all characters ingame.

 

[Hashmalum]

Through the game I forgot about the Wild Hunt several times, unless in situations where they were mentioned.

But once I met the Crones they got stuck in my head, and their sountrack really contributed to it as well, I often find that theme playing somehwere inside my brain.

 

[OptoNick]

Dijkstra isn't a villain at all

Imlerith and Caranthir has no depth as a characters

Eredin is interesting in books, but his appearance in game is way too episodic

Whoreson is too-obviously-bad-guy. Seriously, CDPR don't give us any reason not to kill him.

Changes in Radovid's behaviour are too sudden, I'm not sure about him.


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I really like the portrayal of Menge, especially the dialogue with him while Triss been tortured. But The Crones are so racy that I voted for them

 

[Zyvik]

Why is Dijkstra even in this poll?

The Crones are by far the best villains in the game.Coolest design,coolest lines and coolest OST.

 

[Noobseals]

Cirilla Fiona Elen Riannon.

What!

 

[TudorAdrian]

LoL! so much THIS:

Eredin... let's just not talk about him. Probably the worst villain ever written

....and THIS:

The crones were fantastic, They deserve a own thread. My only complaint is the lame sabbath, but otherwise everything about them was just awesome.

 

[Ljesnjanin]

What!

Decent princesses don't do time-travels while in high heels...Of course she's a villain!

 

[Scryar]

• Imlerith
  
  6 10.34%
  
• Eredin
  
  1 1.72%
  
• Caranthir
  
  0 0%
  
  Well done CDP:hatsoff: