They are like the other political groups, but not quite. Sorceresses have no business plotting against the North, killing kings and weakening Kingdoms, especially when the Nilfgaard is still a threat. For the longest time they lead good lives, kings listened to them, some villages even revered them. They could easily become their country's most influential people, but even that wasn't enough. And that's how they forgot their place.
And yes, if Henselt were to hire Letho, mistake him for an oaf, and give him all the resources he would need, without keeping him on a tight leash, - yes, it'd be his fault that Letho then kills other kings with impunity. Emhyr put Letho up to it, but the Lodge enabled him.
Nilfgaard wanting to exterminate magic users... I kind of doubt it, even Emhyr knows that mages can be useful, not to mention that his daughter is pretty damn magical herself. Ruling them with fear might not be the most "gracious" tactic, but at least it works, like so many other things the Empire.
I rewatched the conversation with Letho and he indeed says that witchers don't have a great time in the Empire. My bad, couldn't remember that bit at all.
Heheh well spotted, that is indeed the clincher
Same here, although "Northern Peoples" maybe, because my Geralts had enough of kings for now, all proved to be tossers.
Yeah, I'm with mecha_fish on this, I seriously doubt Emhyr would keep his promise to Letho as his patronage would be a diplomatic embarrassment should the Assassins be exposed. I doubt he would trust them enough to allow such powerful and anarchic individuals exist even kept on a leash anyway. Emhyr is ruthless, he was totally using the Vipers, and Letho is now a loose end.
(Not sure if we should be discussing this stuff in spoiler tags, but no one has complained so far, so I'll leave it as it is.)
Mmmmm I see where you're coming from, but I still think regardless of the actions the sorceresses took after the Thanedd Coup, Nilfgaard instigated the instability that separated the magical from the state. That coup is what broke down the council and whatever logical structures the sorcerers and the monarchs had in place. This is what leads to Eilhart forming the Lodge and subsequently attempting to ensure the interests of magically endowed (and elves, by extension, hence the murder of Demavend). Poltical instability caused by a foreign agent (Nilfgaard) leads to the minority poltical groups going out of wack -- they had a lot of power and now they don't. Naturally they'll be in a chaotic power struggle. Nilfgaard does understand that the sorcerers are what make the Northern Kingdoms so strong and in the interests of creating havoc, they go about removing the most stable political groups. It's not so much about sorcerers on a leash because of the nature of sorcerers, but more that they were just creating and trying to maintain instability and remove the most dangerous figures from positions of power. If they can eradicate them completely, they will (much like the Squirrels being used as terrorists, they scare the Nordlings into removing the only major threat to Nilfgaard -- magic folk).
Let's remember that
Emhyr did manipulate Pavetta and raise Ciri for the intent of either selling his daughter out to Vilgefortz or to incestuously unite with this child for the purpose of gaining divine power for himself. He had this plan set up for years. Imagine thinking of your own daughter (and wife) that way since before she was born. Although he did undergo some character development, he didn't actually change his mind until he met Ciri so very briefly. He's a complex man, but I don't think one can really judge his personal feelings towards those endowed with magic in general through his child when he only saw that child as a tool rather than a person for so, so long.
Are we off topic? I can't tell at this point.
Okay I gotta chime in here and ask a question that was on my mind for a long time now, since the books (am reading the Baptism of Fire at the moment) don't seem to give any indication towards this:
Who the HELL is Emhyrs daughter? Someone once told me it's Ciri, but obviously she is not it, since she is the Daughter of Pavetta and Dany and the granddaughter of the Lion of Cintra (forgot the name). So who is Emhyrs daughter?
It's not only this though. Witchers aren't allowed in most cities, mages are highly restricted in their use of magic and often are dependent on the permission of superiors or the emperor himself. It is kind of ridiculous if you ask me, considering if they would work together they would be able to kill Emhyr without a problem.
All people are saying - and the books are indicating that too - is that Nilfgaard is under a strict regime with many rules, a lot of violence and severe punishment for the simplest mistakes, and that most occupied countries do not like living under it's rule.... neither do most mages or witchers.
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Do you really want to get spoiled?
Ciri is Emhyr's daughter, because Duny is Emhyr.
Keep reading and enjoy!
Wow that was a bummer. I mean that was a possibility I had in my head, something I sensed might be the case, but then again there was never mention or indication of it.....
But how the hell did he change so much? Wow, I'd call that a real change of character. Then again, also explains his caution towards magic. But hell, was Nilfgaard so little when the whole thing with him and Pavetta and Geralt happened? Because I remember him being described as a guy who is Lord over a small piece of land in the South...
There is a lot of background story there, lot of politics, lot of magic...You know - Sapkowski style
Like I said, just keep readin and prepare to be amazed
This spoiler!...!...!Do you really want to get spoiled?
Ciri is Emhyr's daughter, because Duny is Emhyr.
Keep reading and enjoy!
How have you could be so cruel and insensitive?
Well he warned me and he put spoiler tags around it.This spoiler!...!...!
How have you could be so cruel and insensitive?
So I don't see the problem. He said it was a big spoiler.
First chance I get I'm sticking a sword into Emhyr's chest. Not for the Northern realms but because he threatened Yen and Ciri. My Geralt is simple like that, just ask Henselt.
Why do I get the feeling that'd be easier said than done, nevermind his guards, the impression that Emperor exudes is of utmost & well-deserved confidence, this ain't no Demavend who'll passively await the inevitable decapitation...
He has no chance against Geralt he knows that. But he also knows Geralt needs his help and the neutrality of the Nilfgaardian Empire so his search is efficient enough and he is not hindered all the time. Also he knows would Geralt kill him he'd have trouble getting out of town alive or searching for Ciri/Yen in Nilfgaardian territory.
Emhyr's strength is his wits and his power. He always has an angle.
Oh well then, sounds like fighting him would be moot... if you manage to pull a weapon on him, you're already dead
Well i will try to stay more or less neutral but if need be my Geralt will act, something like what happened on that Killing Monsters trailer...
also if i get a change i will kill every stupid king i find.
also if i get a change i will kill every stupid king i find.
I haven't finished all of the books yet (just the ones that have been translated to English), but so far there's certainly no love lost between Geralt and Nilfgaard, given their history with Ciri. And they do quite a bit of stuff that I find repulsive, cruel, or just plain evil. I intend to play it more or less neutral, but I certainly won't be going out of my way to intentionally help Nilfgaard at all.
Ay, or he'll just overawe Geralt with his voice.Oh well then, sounds like fighting him would be moot... if you manage to pull a weapon on him, you're already dead
How should I know if I haven't even played the game yet?
I think I might wanna try stay neutral but I don't know the story so...
I still remember how I tried to stay neutral in Witcher 1 but still ended up with the Order's ending without even expecting it, because I just helped my friend Siegfried few times.
I think I might wanna try stay neutral but I don't know the story so...
I still remember how I tried to stay neutral in Witcher 1 but still ended up with the Order's ending without even expecting it, because I just helped my friend Siegfried few times.