Building a gaming PC

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Personally I wouldn't get Nvidia even if its hardware was better overall (and it's not better in each aspect now either). Simply because their Linux support is way worse than AMD's.
 
Frankly I'd skip both new models, Nvidia is just $300 more than it should cost and AMD is also more than it should cost and you have to put up with 1st Gen Infinity Cache bugs and lack of optimization. Just like 1st and 2nd Gen Infinity Fabric it's going to take another generation or two to perfect it so the loss performance loss isn't so bad. The Chiplet design DOES NOT improve performance, in fact it will decrease performance but it lowers the manufacturing costs considerably (Not that you can tell from the current pricing). It's the Infinity Cache that is the likely cause of overclocking problems because AMD is already overclocking them out of the box. If you read some of AMD's literature about the new GPU Chiplet design you will see they had to up the GPU core clock by 300 MHz just to get back the performance lost by the Chiplet/Infinity Cache design. Maybe by next Gen they will be able to optimize the Infinity Cache so they only need 100 MHz boost to get back performance. I doubt drivers are going to make much of a difference in the efficiency of the 1st Gen Infinity Cache, it takes changes in the actual hardware configuration just like with the Ryzen CPUs. Infinity Fabric in Ryzen CPUs also limits the memory speed and you can see that by comparing it with Intel's monolithic design CPUs which can better make use of higher frequency DDR4 and DDR5 than Ryzen CPUs can. That's because of the inefficiency inherent in a Chiplet design.
 
Building a gaming PC

Hello everyone, for Christmas I'm planning to buy myself a gaming computer, using this website https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/pcs/ and I was hoping that there would be a few people here willing to give me good advice on what parts would be best to buy. I'm not completely clueless when it comes to computers but I've never bought a PC designed specially for gaming, so any advice on what works and what doesn't would be greatly appreciated.

Ideally I don't want to spend more than £1500.
I'd like to be able to play games (like the Witcher 3) in high settings, if possible, to give you an idea of what kind of performance I'm looking for.

At the moment, the computer specs I've chosen are as follows:

CPU: Intel Core i7 six core processor i7-4930K (3.4GHz) 12MB cache
Motherboard: ASUS P9X79 LE: INTEL SOCKET LG2011
Memory (RAM): 16GB Kingston Hyper-X Fury Dual-DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB )
Graphics Card: 4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 980 - 1 DVI, 1 mHDMI, 3 mDP - 3D Vision Ready
1st Hard Disk (and my only hard disk): 500GB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 16MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive: 8x BLU-RAY ROM DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW
Memory Card Reader: INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Power Supply: CORSAIR 650W VS SERIES™ VS-650 POWER SUPPLY
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 5.1 SoundCard & Headphone AMP (Award Winner)
OS: Genuine Windows 8.1 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence
Keyboard & Mouse: CM Storm Devastator Keyboard and Mouse


The cost of this is (with VAT incl) £1619, which is a little over my budget. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for cheaper alternatives or if I've chosen something unnecessarily powerful and so on.

Also, I have no idea whether it's better to have 2 okayish graphics cards or one amazing graphics card... so I picked one that is quite expensive.

Any feedback would be appreciated!!

also i'm sorry if i posted this in the wrong section
very nice
 
Just got a AW3423DW. This thing is sickkkkkk! :D

Insanely excited to play Phantom Liberty, Baldur's Gate 3 and Starfield on this beauty.

Ramdomly stumbled into a 4080 as well. So now I not only looking forward to playing everything coming up...

But playing at super high settings! <3
 
Ramdomly stumbled into a 4080 as well. So now I not only looking forward to playing everything coming up...

But playing at super high settings! <3
Yea hoping ill stumble into some new hardware before christmas too or ill have too wait for next week -.- Man supply is so bad atm its kinda sad too see.
 
What's the story with cards being sold out? Is it GPU shortages again or something else? I thought shortages issues should be over.
Over here in northen EU its pretty bad. havent seen a 7900xt or xtx in stock, 4090 is very hit and miss. only cards that nobody seem too buy is the 4080.. but its not just gfx cards. hade too order ram/cpu/waterblock from 1 and motherboard from another because they were out ibn the first store. its like this with pretty much anything pc related. Sadly probably wont get both packages tomorrow so have too wait untill next week im guessing :(

Edit: seems most sites here havent even hade any 7900s except for the reference models and even made disclaimers about the low amount and that they are waiting for more cards before they even put them on sale -.- most of the AIB cards has : unknown release date and price sadly too.
 
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Now that I have a fancy 1440p monitor and a super nice video card...

Do any of you forego RT in favor of more FPS while playing on the highest settings without RTX? I have run into some people who think games still look better without RT - anyone here agree with that?
 
Depends on the amount of performance you lose I suppose. I prefer smoother movements and reduced motion blur that high refresh rate + high framerate provide. So if ray tracing is going to tank it too much, I'd rather not use it.

Some rely on high framerate for low latency reasons (like competitive games I think).
 
Now that I have a fancy 1440p monitor and a super nice video card...

Do any of you forego RT in favor of more FPS while playing on the highest settings without RTX? I have run into some people who think games still look better without RT - anyone here agree with that?
Nah at 4k i cant get that high fps anyways and i tend too buy stuff that are at the peak if i can so. Also depends on the game, for CP for example id rather have eye candy then high fps, aslong as its around 60 fps its fine for me. Dammit! my second package isent even packed yet :( no building and gaming christmas for me then i guess :( now too order the last parts so they arive on tuesday together with the rest ^^

Dammit first package arrived but cant do shit. god i haaate ordering from diffrent places -.- got mah cpu, waterblock and ram just need my other 3 packagaes :( FML
 
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Finally got the last stuff yesterday, so turbo build after work and finally got it running. Holy shit the 4090 is a beast! Ignore the dirty floor :) havent tested too much and need too rewire som stuff but so far very worth it for me..
 

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Hey, dirty floor : dirty socks :)
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Haha did a bit of testing, been OCing my cpu a bit but nothing extreme yet (trying too learn, its way diffrent from last time i OCed a intel cpu -.-) and did a benchmark of CP2077 at 1080p no scaling and ultra settings i think no RTX. i was suprised too se that high GPU usage and i averaged 220 fps i think -.- Havent touched the gpu at all yet so still totally stock. The 13900k is a beast! :D
 
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Finally got the last stuff yesterday, so turbo build after work and finally got it running. Holy shit the 4090 is a beast! Ignore the dirty floor :) havent tested too much and need too rewire som stuff but so far very worth it for me..
I got the exact same GPU! It's a beast and it's built like a tank. I love the fact that they went with aluminium for the cooler shroud instead of plastic like with most cards.

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I got the exact same GPU! It's a beast and it's built like a tank. I love the fact that they went with aluminium for the cooler shroud instead of plastic like with most cards.
Yea im waiting for the waterblocks too come into stock in my store. Air is doing pretty well so far but the cooler is so big -.- also it clocks like a beast. Havent seen any 600w usage so far but im hitting 2950 mhz with an oc easily.
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Undervolting/power limiting is the way to go with 4090. You barely lose any performance but save a lot of power.


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I'm running mine at 975mV at 2770MHz (slightly above the default clocks) and managed to reduce peak power draw by 50W. Thus far it's been 100% stable even in the most demanding Ray traced titles.. I'll probably try 950mV next to make it even more efficient.

But yeah, Lovelace is really efficient but nvidia for some reason decided to go way overkill with their power target.
 
Undervolting/power limiting is the way to go with 4090. You barely lose any performance but save a lot of power.

I'm running mine at 975mV at 2770MHz (slightly above the default clocks) and managed to reduce peak power draw by 50W. Thus far it's been 100% stable even in the most demanding Ray traced titles.. I'll probably try 950mV next to make it even more efficient.

But yeah, Lovelace is really efficient but nvidia for some reason decided to go way overkill with their power target.
Yea with prices on electricity being the way they are i think ill go that route too but wanna try out maximum performance first for awhile.


Seems to be pretty low power draw without even touching anything. My 3090 draws more then this with much worse fps. Can even run on DLSS quality with maxed settings for less powerdraw and better fps then i ever hade on my 3090.
 
So after alot of testing and tweaking i think ive found my clocks for now. Intel ocing has really changed since last i did it, so much diffret parameters too keep an eye on and try too keep stable. My cpu now boosts up to 6ghz on 2 cores under light loads but stays at 5,5 all core during heavy loads. With alot of in betweens depedning on core usage and so on. It also draws less power so im kinda happy (13900k is also quite the power gulper, 253w at times before i did this).

My 4090 is running 2890/22000 mhz and never exedes 70c. Seems in DLSS/RT titles it draws less then on pure raster games and ive overclocked my screen and so on so 144hz 4k now :D its quite the power hog tho seeing 500+ watt in ME andromeda -.- This will probably be enough for now atleast untill i get a waterblock for the 4090 and can lower the temps a bit more..
 
I'm currently testing mine at 2790mhz @ 960mV and so far so good. Max power consumption has been 390W thus far (Metro Exodus EE maxed out with no DLSS) but it's usually in the 320-330W range with games that support DLSS.
 
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