Sorry I have to take issue with what you're posting here as it is false. The Hugo's have nothing to do with GamerGate. I didn't hear about them until after the nominations came out.George R. R. Martin... interesting you guys should bring him up. He had quite a few things to write in connection to gamergate's favorite FUB methods and cardboard enemy concept — "the SJW", a fictional group that serves as a bridging narrative between attacking feminist game critics and the ideal of achieving 'ethics in journalism' — when a group not without similarity to the HBB and its kind of activism tried to crash the Hugo Awards this year.
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Not from me, no. I just would have wished he spoke out against gamergate without resorting to hyperbole.
Bona fide hate groups and 'not really gamergate' ideologues like Davis Aurini or Roosh V. have long since taken a strong foothold in the movement's ideological direction. I don't blame anyone for finding the present ideology to be so muddied and so full of internal contradictions, and for finding the members so averse to pointing out currents in the movement that they find unfitting, that they necessarily estimate the loudest and most abject voices to be representative. And if you stumble over exactly those loud voices at the convention of your choice... trying to crash your panels... then, yeah. Then you actually wouldn't be THAT surprised to have a racist hate group in the adjacent booth.
The HBB did a backer funded shit thing and has definitely smeared the GG name some more. The outrage should be going in THAT direction.
Chris — you're all right.
The SJW thing isn't made up. People on twitter call themselves Social Justice (name) or SJW (name). They pass out buttons with SJW on them and recently at GDC there was someone passing out purple ribbons with SJW on them. They posted a pic on twitter of the ribbons. This isn't something people apart of GG made up. It's a group of people pushing an extreme ideology onto others imo. People have been talking about SJWs before GG was a thing. I only started looking into them after this whole GG thing happened and it is pretty scary the things some of these people talk about. A lot of these people sound like people out of an Orwellian novel. Propaganda, manipulation, and bigotry are no problem for these types of people. Some of them sound cult like followers as well. I've never seen anything like this.
I don't know much about the Honey Badgers, but from what I can tell they've been libeled on this case. Disagreeing and debating feminists during a panel should not be considered disruptive.From what I can tell they were having a conversation or debate, not interrupting the whole panel. People should never be afraid to voice their opinions. That Mary Sue article also cited some post they made about "infiltrating Calgary Expo by having been nerds for decades." It was obviously a tongue in cheek comment. But Mary Sue and Calgary Expo focused only on the infiltrating part and used it to justify banning them and proving they were only there to disrupt the con. That is some serious mental gymnastics.
It's worrying to me that feminists can call women who disagree with them disruptive and use that accusation to get them banned or kicked out of cons or any other setting. I only see it getting worse in the future.
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