Some people are, some are not.
Most of them should just use common sense, their brain and maybe take a deep breath.
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Most of them should just use common sense, their brain and maybe take a deep breath.
Yeah maybe here they are just less poisonousThe same can be said of this forum.... or the internet in general
Yeah maybe here they are just less poisonous
I'd argue they aren't.
At least not in the last 2 weeks.
To be perfectly clear, I am not aiming this at any particular side of the fence here. I'm aiming it at both sides. Some (a lot) people are overly defensive of CDPR and CP while others (again, a lot) are overly angry at them. Both are equally toxic.
As i say usually in this cases, lets check the game in a year from now (this is the first time that i play a game week one, usually i wait an year to start), is there when we see improvment, i usually dont suggest to play a game day one
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Twitter is especially toxic hellhole in general, to be fair.
Thank you for proving my point.
It's not about what YOU think is valid or not in someone else's "suggestion". Whether YOU agree or not isn't point. The point is that in a "suggestion forum", people should be able to do just that. Suggest. It's not up to YOU to determine the validity in their suggestions. You have every opportunity to do that everywhere else on this forum.
Same here, i am not on any side of the fence, the game is not a shit of a game as many say, but is very far from perfection
Can't say I disagree.
What I'm saying is anonymity breeds toxicity. Hence, the internet as a whole is generally very toxic.
Same here, and I stand by this. I can critizise many aspects, but still love the game (with almost 200h).
I’m not sure about that. Every time a RED has posted here (unless it’s been an add of some competition or something, although sometimes even then) people seem to jizz in their pants for the ”extraordinary privilege” of getting some dev attention, and there’s been little signs of malice or ill will.
All of that happened before CP2077's launch though.
The second Vatier confirmed the alleged dev leak is a fake leak, a moderator closed the thread. We don't know how it would've went down but seeing how people generally reacted to it in every other thread, I'd say it would've went badly.
Again I disagree with your subjective opinion . You are basically said that all new threads should be closed for response upon creation which would not work either because for example I would just open a new thread saying I disagree with that and think this .
Yeah, we don’t know.
It might’ve gone badly and turned into a regular shitshow, but it might’ve also gone well if there would’ve been a bit of open discussion where Vat could’ve clarified that ”not true” doesn’t mean that they aren’t working for the game to get better (something that shouldn’t even need any clarification).
But we’ll never know now.
That’s the problem of oneliner responses. People might not (will not) understand what’s being said.
Pretty sure the way it would've went is this - Vatier would not have confirmed or denied anything. Vatier said what Vatier was allowed to say and then he(she?) would've left.
Confirmation of them working on improving the game (something I agree goes without saying) would've lead to a ton of other questions. The answer to these questions would not answer everything and on and on it goes.
If there is any statement of them working on improving the game it's not going through an individual developer's account.
Sure, we'll never know but we've seen it happen enough before to make a very well informed guess.
Disagree all you want. There's nothing "subjective" about it. It's MY opinion. I never asked you to agree or disagree. And here, in the general forum that's acceptable regardless of "invitation" or lack thereof.
It shouldn't be in a sub-forum dedicated to garnering feedback about the game. Because when anyone can "label" a suggestion as invalid based on their own, what it there to make the sub-forum any different from the general forum?
Nothing.
With respect, I'll never use Twitter, Facebook, etc. [. . .]
I haven't seen any dev posts but I would hope the devs are actively checking out posts on these forums?
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That's kind of what subjective means.
Jokes asides.
While I disagree with your stance on the suggestion sub forum for the reasons I mentioned to you before, I think the issue is that the moderators aren't able to keep up with the amounts of threads being created. They can't move them to the suggestion sub forum fast enough.
Or maybe they just don't. I don't monitor them, obviously. The general forum is a bit too general if you ask me.
I don't want to stop your discussion, I just wanna know something:
Isn't every Opinion subjective?
On the other hand I think there is a difference between complaining and suggesting.
Complain: I hate the NCPD AI. / The AI is completely shit / horrible / stupid.
Suggestion: imho the NCPD AI needs an improvement / a fix, because they're behavior is stupid/horrible.
But maybe I'm wrong here?
Isn't every Opinion subjective?
On the other hand I think there is a difference between complaining and suggesting.
Complain: I hate the NCPD AI. / The AI is completely shit / horrible / stupid.
Suggestion: imho the NCPD AI needs an improvement / a fix, because they're behavior is stupid/horrible.
But maybe I'm wrong here?
Every opinion is subjective, of course, but your opinion can be based on and backed by facts.
Presentation also plays a major role in how it's received. This part is what a lot of people struggle with.
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