Yeah great find indeed
To stay with in-game infos, not easy to see (poor quality) but on the back side of the Never Fade Away album (screenshot took in the Music shop).
We can see a Never Fade Away song listed on the first side of the disc
To stay with in-game infos, not easy to see (poor quality) but on the back side of the Never Fade Away album (screenshot took in the Music shop).
We can see a Never Fade Away song listed on the first side of the disc
Should be reported too.Yeah great find indeed
To stay with in-game infos, not easy to see (poor quality) but on the back side of the Never Fade Away album (screenshot took in the Music shop).
We can see a Never Fade Away song listed on the first side of the disc
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Actually this is it. Like edit to my previous post:Yeah great find indeed
To stay with in-game infos, not easy to see (poor quality) but on the back side of the Never Fade Away album (screenshot took in the Music shop).
We can see a Never Fade Away song listed on the first side of the disc
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Date for album is right in screencap posted by @Soykaff is in line, as album was released in 2009 but it couldn't had song "Never Fade Away" as it was written inspired by Alt's kidnapping that didn't happened until Aug 4th. 2013.
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An important thing before report it
Is there something in game who prove without doubt that Never Fade Away song is really about Alt ?
(and not about Rogue for example)
I don't remember and Lyrics... Like Kerry said, everyone can understand what he want
Well we DO KNOW the work with A. Talsorian Games was done to keep one cannon version of these things so even if we report on CP77 info only we can use any of these official medias as sources; it helped out on this instanceAn important thing before report it
Is there something in game who prove without doubt that Never Fade Away song is really about Alt ?
(and not about Rogue for example)
I don't remember and Lyrics... Like Kerry said, everyone can understand what he want
I'm actually browsing stuff and trying to find about that.An important thing before report it
Is there something in game who prove without doubt that Never Fade Away song is really about Alt ?
(and not about Rogue for example)
I don't remember and Lyrics... Like Kerry said, everyone can understand what he want
What I found from Wiki: is following:
"...In Cyberpunk 2077 there are multiple dates for a same album, and some don't match the lifespan of Samurai.
- Chippin' In album (March 27, 2004) - Two different dates are given - March 27, 2004 and May 19, 2020. In the meantime, the Chippin' In song has been stated to have been written and composed by Johnny Silverhand for his 2013 album Cool Metal Fire.
- Blistering Love album (January 1, 2007) - Originally a single which later was released as a full album. The song is supposed to be the debut release of Samurai under Universal Music, which happened in 2003 and differs from the 2007 date given in Cyberpunk 2077.
- Never Fade Away song (April 16, 2009) - As with Chippin' in, this song was written and composed by Silverhand for his 2013 Cool Metal Fire album. In addition, the song is related to Alt Cunningham, Johnny's girlfriend who was kidnapped that same year. Lastly, the band was dissolved in 2008, making a 2009 release unlikely."
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Okay, I went trough every relevant shard I could find and none of them list any dates for albums.
So that leaves scanning results and Samurai fan page in the NET and if there's contradictions between the two, I don't even recall for sure if there was a discography section on that fan page. Is there anything else?
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They do yes, but it's also beyond from scope of this topic where any player can report oddities and that in CP 2077. If we bring tabletop to this, this would snowball, there would be more questions, say CP 2020 rulebook says this, but Talsorian changed things in time line for CP Red. So then we would be discussing if CP 2020 or Red version of events is canon to CP 2077 (it is actually CP Red, Mike Pondsmith and J. Gray has said that several time in interviews I have watched). So I think for usual casual player, that would be awfully difficult and confusing to discuss and there is that danger that we were discussing about meta like CP 2020 vs. CP Red vs. CP 2077 when for most players, it's CP 2077 that matters.
This is not to say that this sort of things couldn't be covered in other topic and brought to attention, but I can't participate in that and wouldn't know how to report that sort of things and see that CDPR and R. Talsorian needs to coordinate something like that. Things is, even if there would be oddity, say in Red side of things, what you do when rulebooks are printed copies?
This is not to say that this sort of things couldn't be covered in other topic and brought to attention, but I can't participate in that and wouldn't know how to report that sort of things and see that CDPR and R. Talsorian needs to coordinate something like that. Things is, even if there would be oddity, say in Red side of things, what you do when rulebooks are printed copies?
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I found no shard that links Alt's kidnapping and song Never Fade Away, so that song appears on 2009 Never Fade Away album track listing (as evident from screencap by @LeKill3rFou isn't an issue for CP 2077 players.
For remote possibility regarding information available for average CP 2077 player I went through all slides posted in "Countdown to The Dark Future" topic on these forums. There's nothing indicating that's there's a link between a song "Never Fade Away" and Alt's kidnapping. Samurai fan page in CP 2077 Net is perhaps a possibility.
There's a possibility that information Wikipage claims is present in CP 2077 emails and/or dialogue, though I have no recollection of that being the case.
Another matter is if there are different release dates given in CP 2077 for Chippin' In album (March 27, 2004) - Two different dates are given - March 27, 2004 and May 19, 2020. In the meantime, the Chippin' In song has been stated to have been written and composed by Johnny Silverhand for his 2013 album Cool Metal Fire. Wikipage doesn't list where exactly that data comes from. Samurai fan page in CP 2077 Net is perhaps a possibility.
So at this point this appears to be case like, "It was just a few days before Christmas Eve when one elf went to explore the Wiki and got mindfucked because of poorly sourced information..."
I found no shard that links Alt's kidnapping and song Never Fade Away, so that song appears on 2009 Never Fade Away album track listing (as evident from screencap by @LeKill3rFou isn't an issue for CP 2077 players.
For remote possibility regarding information available for average CP 2077 player I went through all slides posted in "Countdown to The Dark Future" topic on these forums. There's nothing indicating that's there's a link between a song "Never Fade Away" and Alt's kidnapping. Samurai fan page in CP 2077 Net is perhaps a possibility.
There's a possibility that information Wikipage claims is present in CP 2077 emails and/or dialogue, though I have no recollection of that being the case.
Another matter is if there are different release dates given in CP 2077 for Chippin' In album (March 27, 2004) - Two different dates are given - March 27, 2004 and May 19, 2020. In the meantime, the Chippin' In song has been stated to have been written and composed by Johnny Silverhand for his 2013 album Cool Metal Fire. Wikipage doesn't list where exactly that data comes from. Samurai fan page in CP 2077 Net is perhaps a possibility.
So at this point this appears to be case like, "It was just a few days before Christmas Eve when one elf went to explore the Wiki and got mindfucked because of poorly sourced information..."
Well, the DataKrash kind of cover all kind of inconsistent dates/information...I mean, they had to go back to punched card computers (that you use in-game in one quest) because the whole net was corrupted and all data was unreliable. Is why even the events of 4th Corpo War and the role of Silverhand and NUSA are open to your favorite interpretation, there is no reliable source of what truly happened.
If there was a way to ask Kerry or Johnny, that would be so easy
Johnny probably was drunk when writting it, Kerry I think made a remake of Chippin'in and probably will want to ignore the original (like Metallica when playing the Four Horsemen instead of The Mechanix)If there was a way to ask Kerry or Johnny, that would be so easy
Yep, very possible (only "drunk" at best)
So it will probably remain a Cyberpunk mystery...
Informative, but I don't know how much that is a factor for average CP 2077 player. It's very convenient for someone who is more to settings and that, but for average player for example, album dates on wall at certain in-game location are consistent with dates given to those album in other in-game location and things like that, I think it's that sort of things that are important to their experience with game.
For those who have game in progress it would be good if people would keep their eyes open if there's email or something linking Kidnapping of Alt and song Never Fade Away, but it's curious if such inconsistency exists, that nobody remember its and there's no source in Wiki and if there's issue with game giving different dates for same albums / singles in different in-game locations / information sources (practically Samurai fan page I mentioned earlier).
Years ago I went through some history of some rock band I'm not going to name, but it was funny how in archived interviews, when asked about on different years about idea behind this or that song, band member that was interviewed gave different answers. It was also hilarious how his answers regarding how band was formed and their early years kept changing.Yep, very possible (only "drunk" at best)
So it will probably remain a Cyberpunk mystery...
But I don't want to derail a good topic so, Delamain my recollection from him and the Sun ending was that I got the same Delamain with different choices Merge / Reset and it's bit curious how Delamain got access to AV if it doesn't have access to HQ? But my playthroughs are from version (day 1 to 1.06). Then 1.24 and 1.3. What if anything has changed and if data even comparable? Don't know what to do with this.
I'll try the sun ending in this playthrough to be sure that nothing have changed
(The voices between "senior" and "junior" Delamain are really different in french. And Delamain and his parts was merged, so he leave Night City for good)
I'm not sure if it was reported here or elsewhere, but the most flagrant and immersion breaking(half joking-half serious) that I've found in CP2077 is this(note is not a fresh 1.31 re-start, but I have seen it in 3 fresh walkthroughs previous to last patch):
I noticed in my 1st playthrough and just today I remember and decided to check. Its in Vista del Rey, a bunch of Arasaka "tourists" sightseeing dangerous neighbourhoods (you can listen to the dialogue with the armed escort) but the armed escort is MILITECH... doesn´t make any sense.
I noticed in my 1st playthrough and just today I remember and decided to check. Its in Vista del Rey, a bunch of Arasaka "tourists" sightseeing dangerous neighbourhoods (you can listen to the dialogue with the armed escort) but the armed escort is MILITECH... doesn´t make any sense.
I remember those NPC's but never came to pay attention to car. Good find!
I think this classifies as a bug and could be reported.
If you scan,guards are Militech and the "guide" is unaligned,all "tourists" are Arasaka. Kind of weird for something that is hand placed and not generated from pool.
If somebody with fresh 1.31 walkthrough can confirm it would be better for reporting
I can confirm, 1.31 "fresh save"
And this is clearly intentional (and maybe/certainly a mistake for Arasaka as a corpo) because the "guide", the one who is not affiliated with Arasaka, do a little presentation :
"Ladies and gentlemen, this is Heywood, one of the most dangerous neighborhoods... blah blah blah... "
And this is clearly intentional (and maybe/certainly a mistake for Arasaka as a corpo) because the "guide", the one who is not affiliated with Arasaka, do a little presentation :
"Ladies and gentlemen, this is Heywood, one of the most dangerous neighborhoods... blah blah blah... "
I don't remember their conversation, it's just that why in the world would Arasaka personnel hire Militech for their security? I mean, anyone whom have played corpo path, this goes against how CP 2077 world works.I can confirm, 1.31 "fresh save"
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And this is clearly intentional (and maybe/certainly a mistake for Arasaka as a corpo) because the "guide", the one who is not affiliated with Arasaka, do a little presentation :
"Ladies and gentlemen, this is Heywood, one of the most dangerous neighborhoods... blah blah blah... "
Yep, it's for that I said "a mistake"
(Arasaka make no sense, but I suppose it was "Militech tourists" who were intended to be).