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NightSavior;n10331442 said:
Everyone should expect them to show something, obviously that goes for almost anything they intend to show could be a surprise, so timing would be the only other surprise as to when they will show it, I think.
Shavod;n10285512 said:
We were born too late to explore the earth and born too early to explore the galaxy, but we were born just in time to see Bethesda and Bioware get crushed by Cyberpunk 2077.
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Lisbeth_Salander;n10349002 said:
Its incredible how our perceptions of companies can radically change. Bioware used to be at the top when they developed KOTOR but has been making shitty RPGs since Mass Effect 3. I remember when Bethesda released Skyrim. I thought that game was the greatest RPG and would never be beaten. Then suddenly four years later in 2015 The Witcher 3 was released and then suddenly Skyrim sucks. Then Bethesda releases Fallout 4 and everybody looks at their catalog and realizes that Bethesda never were that great in the first place. In the midst, while all of this is going down, CDPR has risen to the top. I reckon CDPR will beat their own record when it comes to Cyberpunk 2077.
Draymar23;n10349802 said:
I recently tried to play KoTOR and boy that game hasn't dated well. I also recently started playing DA:I and by comparison the gameplay and look of the game is superior. Can't yet say about all the mechanics and story but I know several people who really liked the game. Not all of them consider it better than TW3 though. DA:I is only the other of two games BioWare has released since ME3 and even ME:A was considered good by many.
Pretty much same goes for Skyrim and Fallout 4. Bethesda's games are completely different from CDPR's and compare quite badly. They're both open-world and put into the RPG category but that's about as far as the similarities go. Bethesda's sandboxes and exploration aspects are in their own league (pardon the little hyperbole) while CDPR excels in engaging narrative and really good characters. TW3 isn't a perfect game either.
As a summary, among the most anticipated games for the next couple years three (biggest?) ones come from these three studios: CDPR's Cyberpunk 2077, Bethesda's rumored Starfield and Bioware's Anthem. I really can't put them in an order from most anticipated to least as they all fill a different role with my preferences and likes. In addition, there are several other games that might occupy even more of my time than any of these.
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They're one Kingdom Come: Deliverance away from dying drown in negative reaction. CP2077 is finishing blow.Lisbeth_Salander;n10349002 said:
Other then a whole bunch of scavenger hunt quests (which you'll probably come to hate) and a random element to getting crafting schematics (meaning that unless you "cheat" a bit and repeatedly loot a couple areas you'll never get them all) DA:I plays pretty well.NightSavior;n10350112 said:
metalmaniac21;n10350602 said:
Funny enough my interest in KC: Deliverance is exactly zero. I'm rarely ever skipping an rpg - but KC: Deliverance is entirely unappealing to me. And I don't even know exactly why - it just doesn't peek my interest at all. Recent rumors about the studio boss aren't helping either.
I do agree though that Bethesda and BioWare need to step up their game.
I do have hopes for Bethesda. With the exception of the weird Minecraft mechanics in Fallout 4 and the general action focus, their games are unique in many ways and I genuinely enjoy them. I'm curious what they'll come up with. I definitely see potential there, though.
With BioWare I'm more pessimistic. They have been moving away from their core strengths for quite some time. Until recently there were three different BioWare studios. I personally would have loved if they had used one studio to bring in lots of money (referring to that Anthem thingy) while using the other two studios to produce smaller, less risky titles focusing on the traditional strengths like a more linear, guided but well written and performed story. Kind of like The Witcher 1 and 2 or the original Dragon Age. Maybe even akin to the Mass Effect trilogy without the cheap ending. Instead I fear we'll see online elements, microtransactions if not outright loot boxes, grind quests and activities and so on. I'd love to be wrong - maybe the next Dragon Age is going to turn out quite well - but with the current course of EA I have little hopes
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111elf;n10351062 said:Funny enough my interest in KC: Deliverance is exactly zero. I'm rarely ever skipping an rpg - but KC: Deliverance is entirely unappealing to me. And I don't even know exactly why - it just doesn't peek my interest at all. Recent rumors about the studio boss aren't helping either.
I do agree though that Bethesda and BioWare need to step up their game.
I do have hopes for Bethesda. With the exception of the weird Minecraft mechanics in Fallout 4 and the general action focus, their games are unique in many ways and I genuinely enjoy them. I'm curious what they'll come up with. I definitely see potential there, though.
With BioWare I'm more pessimistic. They have been moving away from their core strengths for quite some time. Until recently there were three different BioWare studios. I personally would have loved if they had used one studio to bring in lots of money (referring to that Anthem thingy) while using the other two studios to produce smaller, less risky titles focusing on the traditional strengths like a more linear, guided but well written and performed story. Kind of like The Witcher 1 and 2 or the original Dragon Age. Maybe even akin to the Mass Effect trilogy without the cheap ending. Instead I fear we'll see online elements, microtransactions if not outright loot boxes, grind quests and activities and so on. I'd love to be wrong - maybe the next Dragon Age is going to turn out quite well - but with the current course of EA I have little hopes
What rumors are you referring to about the KCD boss? I've been interested in the game, but I don't think it's as revolutionary as some think. It's just something to occupy me until other titles come out (Bannerlord, CP2077).
Snowflakez;n10351372 said:
I'm not sure if he was a boss of the studio, but one of the developers publically criticised the current obsession with political correctness in modern media, including the brief race controversy started by some outlets, regarding lack of representation of people of different races in The Witcher 3. Personally I didn't see nothing wrong with his arguments regarding often forced and out-of-place inclusion of racial diversity just for diversity sake, but I imagine that certain websites (including one particular Sony shilling forum) might have a problem with that.
I don't see Kingdom Come being a big seller. It's a medieval Arma in the making. Loyal but modest following because from all that's shown, it's about graphical flash and complicated (not complex) gameplay mechanisms that do well in keeping the game out of the mainstream hotspot. That's how it looks to me. I think Vavra is a good guy (and partly because he had the balls to stand against the vidya-gaem diversity squad), but this game of his is too fixated.
Personally to me it looks boring, but I hope it does well for Warhorse.
Personally to me it looks boring, but I hope it does well for Warhorse.
Shavod;n10352082 said:
Ah, I see.
It is worth noting that the whole "political correctness" thing is not as common in other countries as it is in the US and the UK (I can't speak for countries like Canada). So, when you have foreign devs looking to release a game into a big market like the US, naturally they are getting a look into the politics going on there, and how people conduct themselves, etc. because that directly affects their business.
To many of them, it could be polarizing and very much a "stranger in a strange land" experience. To them, many of the problems we may or may not have are meaningless or nonexistent in their countries, or at least not as big of a deal. So I always think it's worth giving devs -- no matter their political leanings -- a little leeway on that count. I haven't seen his arguments, but if it's anything like what the Last Night Dev said regarding the whole PC thing, I doubt it would bother me at all (doesn't mean I agree or disagree).
Personally, I just don't like agendas of any kind whatsoever (left, right, PC, anti-PC... makes no difference) in my games. I don't mind stuff in-game mirroring real life issues, that's inevitable, but I don't like having anything forced upon me. I am capable of thinking for myself.
Also, yes, @kofeiiniturpa, you are probably correct. I wouldn't call it a "medieval Arma" though - I get that you were being hyberbolic, but Arma is basically a straight up military simulator in every way. There's nothing else to it. Its entire focus is realism 100% of the time. KCD seems to be much more of a "fun" focused game, with its RPG elements and story and multiple ways of approaching a situation, and player freedom, and even world reactivity.
I'm not saying it's going to be the godlike RPG of the decade... far from it... I don't even think it's going to sell that well, as you said (Hopefully enough to warrant an improved sequel down the line). But it'll absolutely attract more people than Arma.
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Whats up everyone!! Havent posted om here in quite some time but trust me i never left (i like to watch lol). But anyway i think the beep tweet was rather significant. Silence for five years followed by anything is a big deal. I think something big is coming. I think the big thing to focus on here is back in 2017 when they said the marketing campaign would rely on a "surprise factor." Obv i dont think the *beep* was the whole surprise but rather it was supposed to be like the beep a computer used to make when its first booting up. I think it was cdprs way of letting us know that the silence has been officially broken and that more is on the way. Also i remember back in early 2017 when 2 different redditors visited cdprs office for something gwent related and both separately stated that they had seen a date in cdprs office pertaining to cp 2077 that say May 2018. Now back then most people wrote this off as nothing more than bs but me personally i thought it couldnt have been a coincidence that 2 people independent from eachother noticed this date. I myself dont believe in coincidences. Now fast forward to the FIRST month in 2018 and we get the beep tweet. Which is more concrete evidence of something significant coming than anything since the reveal trailer in 2013. I think that date of may 2018 holds a clue to when we will ne getting the next piece of info. Im not saying its a release date or anything like that. But i do think well get maybe a lore video. I think that alot of people are hyped about this game but maybe dont knwo a whole lot about the lore. A video that helps ease people into the lore and world makes perfect sense to me. So may 2018 1 month before e3 well get a video or 2 about the lore and the world. And then i think well get a HUGE presentation/reveal on stage ar e3. And im going to make a big prediction here as well. Not only will we get the reveal/gameplay presentation at e3 but i think well get a release date as well. Im the bold type so im going to say the release date will be for november of 2018. People thought this game was way farther off and clearly theyve been working on it alot longer than everyone thought. And remember this has to rely on a "surprise factor." Just like fallout 4 the game will be released 6 months after e3. Its going to be epic and I for one havent been this excited about a game for a long time . Sorry for the long post but i had to make up for my being absent the past 6 months or so
DarthRaver8686;n10354652 said:Whats up everyone!! Havent posted om here in quite some time but trust me i never left (i like to watch lol). But anyway i think the beep tweet was rather significant. Silence for five years followed by anything is a big deal. I think something big is coming. I think the big thing to focus on here is back in 2017 when they said the marketing campaign would rely on a "surprise factor." Obv i dont think the *beep* was the whole surprise but rather it was supposed to be like the beep a computer used to make when its first booting up. I think it was cdprs way of letting us know that the silence has been officially broken and that more is on the way. Also i remember back in early 2017 when 2 different redditors visited cdprs office for something gwent related and both separately stated that they had seen a date in cdprs office pertaining to cp 2077 that say May 2018. Now back then most people wrote this off as nothing more than bs but me personally i thought it couldnt have been a coincidence that 2 people independent from eachother noticed this date. I myself dont believe in coincidences. Now fast forward to the FIRST month in 2018 and we get the beep tweet. Which is more concrete evidence of something significant coming than anything since the reveal trailer in 2013. I think that date of may 2018 holds a clue to when we will ne getting the next piece of info. Im not saying its a release date or anything like that. But i do think well get maybe a lore video. I think that alot of people are hyped about this game but maybe dont knwo a whole lot about the lore. A video that helps ease people into the lore and world makes perfect sense to me. So may 2018 1 month before e3 well get a video or 2 about the lore and the world. And then i think well get a HUGE presentation/reveal on stage ar e3. And im going to make a big prediction here as well. Not only will we get the reveal/gameplay presentation at e3 but i think well get a release date as well. Im the bold type so im going to say the release date will be for november of 2018. People thought this game was way farther off and clearly theyve been working on it alot longer than everyone thought. And remember this has to rely on a "surprise factor." Just like fallout 4 the game will be released 6 months after e3. Its going to be epic and I for one havent been this excited about a game for a long time . Sorry for the long post but i had to make up for my being absent the past 6 months or so
Hi there. I agree with some of this, maybe even most of it, but one big thing: They said they want to do something like Bethesda did with Fallout 4. So it doesn't necessarily mean they will release the game 6 months after their first real gameplay/information drops. It could mean they release it even sooner, or a lot later. It's not certain.
Ya i know. But i just have this gut feeling that the big surprise theyve been talking about is the release date. I mean what else could it be??? Plus now theyve posted the story on the official cdpr website about the xmas party. The last sentence hints that 2018 will be a great year for them, "even better" than 2017 with a winky face. And if you read the whole aritcle they mention several times that this was the biggest and best party cdpr has ever thrown. Perosnally i dont think it was just the holidays they were celebrating. I think they were celebrating something bigger than that. Hold on just a little bit longer guys, i think the wait is almost over.
DarthRaver8686;n10357122 said:
That’s actually the scary part. The moment of truth where speculations and hopes end and visions turn to unalterable concrete for better or worse.
DarthRaver8686;n10357122 said:
2018 is going to be the year of Gwent and Thronebreaker.
But maybe also of Cyberpunk 2077 to some yet to be known extent, after all, the party was around the time when a major milestone was said to be reached, and then the "beep" was posted a few weeks later. So, it could be that the game already reached alpha stage. Which may still mean a year or more work left, but is also something worth celebrating.
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