Spoiler - Going to space

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I read some post about how to go to space you have to go to LAX, then go to Arizona to board a spaceship. Is there a reason why? Arizona seems a poor place to launch anything into orbit because you must have a long path of uninhabited land on the east side in case something goes wrong (spaceship crash, spent stage landing, etc.). Right now IRL launches to orbit they launch from Cape Canaveral because there's nothing but open ocean to the east (you launch east going to orbit because the Earth already moves around 600m/s therefore giving you a slight boost to orbit, doing this allows you to double payload capacity). For polar orbit launches you launch from Vandenberg Airforce Base because there is not any civilization to the north of the site.

That is unless the Crystal Palace is on a steep incline so you only need clear land to the north (but there are lots of civilizations north of Arizona).

I mean who knows, the ship V came out of during the Sun ending is quite large, especially for just one guy (normally spaceship is quite small because you need a GIANT rocket to get it up to speed). So maybe by 2077 they figured out how to get around the rocket equation and send stuff into space without a strict weight policy.

FYI you need to move sideways at around 8000m/s in order to achieve orbit. That's about 28,000 miles per hour. Getting to the right height isn't enough as you'll fall right back to Earth. Think of orbit as falling, but because you move sideways so fast the ground fall away from you at the same rate as you are falling, so you never reach the ground. Then there's the matter of timing your launch so you can intercept the station you are trying to reach, because phasing is quite costly in terms of fuel (you need to first boost to a really high orbit, then at the right time to a hohman transfer orbit to reach the station).

This is also why crafts burn up when reentering, because you aren't burning just because you are reaching Earth, but you are burning because you're moving at 8000m/s and so the extreme air compression causes it to heat up. But to slow down to enough of a speed to not burn up in atmosphere would require just as big of a rocket as the one that got you to orbit in the first place, with another rocket 10x bigger than the rocket you have in orbit to get it there. So air is used as a means to slow the craft down to a safe speed. A heat shield is much lighter than another rocket.
 
I read some post about how to go to space you have to go to LAX, then go to Arizona to board a spaceship. Is there a reason why? Arizona seems a poor place to launch anything into orbit because you must have a long path of uninhabited land on the east side in case something goes wrong (spaceship crash, spent stage landing, etc.).

Do you have a link to that post about heading to Arizona? There's a rocket launch site in Night City.

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I've only seen 3 of the possible endings, one of which ended with a gun... The other ones were in space either coming back to earth or uploading myself.

I haven't read this entire thread because of spoilers obviously, but going to space seemed really out of place for this game. There was no mention of the possibility of high tech medical labs needing a specific environment (like low gravity or space) at any time in my Nomad playthrough. So the whole premise of going there was a big letdown for me personally. I won't continue but suffice to say I can't see a reason to replay another character with that kind of ending.
 
I read some post about how to go to space you have to go to LAX, then go to Arizona to board a spaceship. Is there a reason why? Arizona seems a poor place to launch anything into orbit because you must have a long path of uninhabited land on the east side in case something goes wrong (spaceship crash, spent stage landing, etc.). Right now IRL launches to orbit they launch from Cape Canaveral because there's nothing but open ocean to the east (you launch east going to orbit because the Earth already moves around 600m/s therefore giving you a slight boost to orbit, doing this allows you to double payload capacity). For polar orbit launches you launch from Vandenberg Airforce Base because there is not any civilization to the north of the site.

That is unless the Crystal Palace is on a steep incline so you only need clear land to the north (but there are lots of civilizations north of Arizona).

I mean who knows, the ship V came out of during the Sun ending is quite large, especially for just one guy (normally spaceship is quite small because you need a GIANT rocket to get it up to speed). So maybe by 2077 they figured out how to get around the rocket equation and send stuff into space without a strict weight policy.

FYI you need to move sideways at around 8000m/s in order to achieve orbit. That's about 28,000 miles per hour. Getting to the right height isn't enough as you'll fall right back to Earth. Think of orbit as falling, but because you move sideways so fast the ground fall away from you at the same rate as you are falling, so you never reach the ground. Then there's the matter of timing your launch so you can intercept the station you are trying to reach, because phasing is quite costly in terms of fuel (you need to first boost to a really high orbit, then at the right time to a hohman transfer orbit to reach the station).

This is also why crafts burn up when reentering, because you aren't burning just because you are reaching Earth, but you are burning because you're moving at 8000m/s and so the extreme air compression causes it to heat up. But to slow down to enough of a speed to not burn up in atmosphere would require just as big of a rocket as the one that got you to orbit in the first place, with another rocket 10x bigger than the rocket you have in orbit to get it there. So air is used as a means to slow the craft down to a safe speed. A heat shield is much lighter than another rocket.
Not sure about launch sites in Arizona but from what I’ve seen the spaceship looks like it could be an SSTO which might explain why they don’t need an uninhabited stretch of land heading east.
Also when you’re re-entering atmosphere at a high velocity, you can theoretically slow down to a safe speed before you reach the denser part of the atmosphere, by either using a very shallow angle of attack going into the atmosphere, or aerobraking by skimming the atmosphere to reduce speed.
I imagine though that the ship just has plenty of heat shielding like the IRL space shuttle does.
 
Not sure about launch sites in Arizona but from what I’ve seen the spaceship looks like it could be an SSTO which might explain why they don’t need an uninhabited stretch of land heading east.
Also when you’re re-entering atmosphere at a high velocity, you can theoretically slow down to a safe speed before you reach the denser part of the atmosphere, by either using a very shallow angle of attack going into the atmosphere, or aerobraking by skimming the atmosphere to reduce speed.
I imagine though that the ship just has plenty of heat shielding like the IRL space shuttle does.

IRL space shuttle killed 14 people because of their complicated design using exotic materials.

SpaceX is developing the Starship, with the casing made out of stainless steel which just about anyone knows how to work with and can survive reentry heat fairly easily (bonus is stainless steel is not a very good conductor so less insulation is needed). But even Starship is not SSTO because you wouldn't be able to put much in orbit with it.
 
IRL space shuttle killed 14 people because of their complicated design using exotic materials.

SpaceX is developing the Starship, with the casing made out of stainless steel which just about anyone knows how to work with and can survive reentry heat fairly easily (bonus is stainless steel is not a very good conductor so less insulation is needed). But even Starship is not SSTO because you wouldn't be able to put much in orbit with it.
I’m guessing that having access to more futuristic materials and technology than we currently do means they could build something that is more reliable under duress!

There’s actually a really cool project in the works currently in the UK called the Skylon. It’s an SSTO that can transport up to 17 tonnes into LEO, or 11 up to where the ISS orbits. I imagine if space travel is commercialised in CP2077 you’d be looking at something like that to get into orbit.
 
Starship can put 150 tons to low earth orbit, and is fully reusable. Spacex said they would be able to put that much stuff into orbit for 2 million dollars. This is a game changer. Think mining rare earths from asteroids.
 
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