I do. I'm the cheated customer, and I don't really care how much it should cost to deliver the game at least half of the promised.I don't blame them, the sunk cost is too high now.
Coz it's easier to start a new one.Why would any one think they're going to abandon the game?
I'm with you in that they didn't cancel CP2077 MP. They cancelled it as a standalone but it's still happening. It's scale and scope will surely be reduced to accommodate this but it's still happening.
But our opinion diverge here - I'm not too worried about them wanted to add MP to their franchises. If it's done right. Right now it sounds a lot like they want to have a very cautious approach to all of it and rightfully so. A jump to meaningful MP isn't easy and requires a proper content pipeline which they simply lack right now. Although they aim to change it, it's not happening overnight and I don't expect CP2077 MP anytime soon.
Bottom line, as long as they keep true to their stated goal of creating SP games playing on their strengths I don't really mind some tacked on MP. I don't see it becoming a focus of theirs anytime soon.
You might just be the smartest person ever to put words on virtual paper.If they only fix this game so it can get released back on consoles and then abandon the this game no one will buy their games ever again.
I hope it doesn't go down that road. There is one thing that kept bothering me as I listened to the video and I kept telling myself "this is an investor call/presentation", the talk must be business oriented but still, I found strange that Mike Pondsmith wasn't referred when they kept talking about the future of the IP, specialy in other mediums. The spider of the IP will grow in other directions but as far as I know the cyberpunk IP is originally Mike's, so I was surprised to not hear about a partnership in this.You really didn't saw what they did in there.
The standalone product was canceled, but not the online.
Who in their right mind wold buy a Mp version of CP2077?.. Heck who in their right mind wold even buy CP2077 SP we have right now..
Patch the game, focus on basic fixes that are needed for the MP, save resources on a product that simply wold not sell, launch MP for free, be the good guys now because, well, it's free. Last step, milk.
They didn't change anything when it comes to what's next. The MP will come and that is a basic phylosophy for all their products as of future projects.
Which is worrisome.. Very worrisome.. Because we all know where this road will lead, hence why we all thought back in December that CP2077 wold be the holy grail that wold save us from mediocrity that is every AAA live focused services...
Oh boy, little did we knew...
You know that game outriders that is due to come out this month?... Man.. It was the most boring game I've played in the last years... It felt like I have played that same gamr 5 times before.
You clearly did not understand me. I never said anything about the online component of CDPR games. I said that CP Online (the standalone game that was announced) is canceled.You really didn't saw what they did in there.
The standalone product was canceled, but not the online.
I hope it doesn't go down that road. There is one thing that kept bothering me as I listened to the video and I kept telling myself "this is an investor call/presentation", the talk must be business oriented but still, I found strange that Mike Pondsmith wasn't referred when they kept talking about the future of the IP, specialy in other mediums. The spider of the IP will grow in other directions but as far as I know the cyberpunk IP is originally Mike's, so I was surprised to not hear about a partnership in this.
good riddance...Bye-bye, Cyberpunk 2077 online.
What I fear is that we will be never able to play this game as intended. Too much of a re-design.What I fear is that we won't be able to play this game as intended until the end of 2022
View attachment 11203552This section suggests they're intending to continue with updates and small dlc for CP2077 this year and then move on to expansion.
That's exaggeration. No one who enjoyed Witcher 3, would not buy Witcher 4 because Cyberpunk 2077 was abandoned. People would even buy the next CDPR's Cyberpunk title. Worst case scenario, minority with their own principles actually ignore CDPR games and lower preorder numbers. If they provide entertaining and high quality game, people will buy it no matter what. Other gaming companies treat their players way worse and they still manage to get high sales every single year. That's just how it is.If they only fix this game so it can get released back on consoles and then abandon the this game no one will buy their games ever again.
I've been interested by the lack of involvement from Mike Pondsmith since launch. On the other media thing I understood that Talsorian and Cyberpunk are still separate from CP2077 and that CDPR effectively have a concession for the 2077 brand, as in it isn't proper cannon.I hope it doesn't go down that road. There is one thing that kept bothering me as I listened to the video and I kept telling myself "this is an investor call/presentation", the talk must be business oriented but still, I found strange that Mike Pondsmith wasn't referred when they kept talking about the future of the IP, specialy in other mediums. The spider of the IP will grow in other directions but as far as I know the cyberpunk IP is originally Mike's, so I was surprised to not hear about a partnership in this.
From what I've seen, Mike is active on reddit on the lowsodiumcyberpunk sub.I've been interested by the lack of involvement from Mike Pondsmith since launch. On the other media thing I understood that Talsorian and Cyberpunk are still separate from CP2077 and that CDPR effectively have a concession for the 2077 brand, as in it isn't proper cannon.
Maybe he's not willing to come out in favour until its fixed? It's a bit different from Sapkowski who I understand was grateful for the exposure for his books but didn't get gaming, Mike is a gamer and has a strong reputation I guess well see more of him once cdpr have saved face?
If the CTO has oversight and approval of marketing claims and launch timelines..... sounds like a different outcome for their next launchWhat I found interesting were 2 little details:
1. CTO role to become more prominent and the technology layer playing an important part in the transformation. I hope this means CTO having more influence on final design decisions being taken, balancing Adam Badowski in this regard.
2. Switching to agile development in 2021. I mean, agile has been around for some time and I can see how sticking to waterfall type of development made them react slower to changes and eventually kind of "entrenched" in some areas of the game's design. Add to that short development cycle, a bit of communication chaos between teams, overreaching ideas and eventually COVID - a perfect storm for disaster.
Marketing? Probably not. But if he becomes a more prominent voice in the whole decision making process and has more say when it comes to validity of game features and mechanics vs engine capabilities, without being overruled by designers/directors - it could really make a difference.If the CTO has oversight and approval of marketing claims and launch timelines..... sounds like a different outcome for their next launch
I realise he's active, he seems to be pretty guarded about what he thinks of the game though. Happy to talk about the lore etcFrom what I've seen, Mike is active on reddit on the lowsodiumcyberpunk sub.