I do. I'm the cheated customer, and I don't really care how much it should cost to deliver the game at least half of the promised.
Bugs are a hugely inferior issue in comparison to design flaws. Awful hacking, awful skill tree, no seamless food vending/implant install, no basic interaction with friendly/romanced NPCs after their questlines, cheap police, lazy AI, lots of them. This really hurts experience a lot.
Coz it's easier to start a new one.
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I understand your point.
And ofc, the scope of the MP will be diminished because your not selling a full product that needs to be fully fleshed out. Some basic MP features are more then enough of a reason to justify opening an ingame cash shop. If you are already live.. Well.. Might as well go for it.
And I understand this. Games that have a cash shop are day and night when it comes to revenues. For instance, a Fifa pro player spends about 7k euros to make a team just for that year... The revenue vs expense of having a online shop is just insane.
But my problem with it, is that companies are not placing that extra money on better, new and you know.. Fun content. For us gammers to play. Its all more of the same. And everyone is doing the same.
Focus on brand, expand that brand, capitalize on it. On the brand. Not in the game. Notice how they explained this so well in this video, the importance of having a Brand.
But let's see, maybe things will change. After all, all i want is to play good games
) ... how is that abandoning the game?I hope it doesn't go down that road. There is one thing that kept bothering me as I listened to the video and I kept telling myself "this is an investor call/presentation", the talk must be business oriented but still, I found strange that Mike Pondsmith wasn't referred when they kept talking about the future of the IP, specialy in other mediums. The spider of the IP will grow in other directions but as far as I know the cyberpunk IP is originally Mike's, so I was surprised to not hear about a partnership in this.
You clearly did not understand me. I never said anything about the online component of CDPR games. I said that CP Online (the standalone game that was announced) is canceled.
Well, it wold be very unprofessional from CDPR to show someone that is not part of the company to talk about.. the Future Plans of the Company hehe
And nha, they wold never in their lives cancel this Brand and Night City. They are not EA that can simply shut down a brand (countless times).
It took them years (7 years) to capitalize on CP Brand. And they now have 2.Two very lucrative bands (as the record for fastest selling game on PC demonstrates it.) And CP was a new IP... Yeah.. That was very huge what CP did.
CP will stick arround for many years, fear not.
What I fear is that we won't be able to play this game as intended until the end of 2022 lol oh well.
good riddance...
I had hoped that CDPR was smarter than Bethesda when I switched DEV loyalty ( aka to fanboy obsess on
) .Looks like a I may have done the right thing.
On the other hand "we are focusing on bringing online into all of our franchises one day." CAN also mean ONLINE requirement and DEV servers for even single player game and that can make legal modding difficult if not impossible.
Remind me again, how long did it take for Fallout 76 to get legal, DEV supported mods?
Fallout 76 mod support confirmed
Bethesda's post-apocalyptic multiplayer survival sandbox will indeed support mods, they've said, but not at launch.
www.rockpapershotgun.com
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What I fear is that we will be never able to play this game as intended. Too much of a re-design.
Yeah, pretty much what they already showed us in the previous roadmap: patches, free DLCs and next-gen update this year; paid, full fledged expansions next year. Their plans haven't changed one bit. They just canceled the standalone MP, and they have apparently learned a lot from the marketing campaign for CP and will be much more careful with their announcements and showcases in the future.
That's exaggeration. No one who enjoyed Witcher 3, would not buy Witcher 4 because Cyberpunk 2077 was abandoned. People would even buy the next CDPR's Cyberpunk title. Worst case scenario, minority with their own principles actually ignore CDPR games and lower preorder numbers. If they provide entertaining and high quality game, people will buy it no matter what. Other gaming companies treat their players way worse and they still manage to get high sales every single year. That's just how it is.
I've been interested by the lack of involvement from Mike Pondsmith since launch. On the other media thing I understood that Talsorian and Cyberpunk are still separate from CP2077 and that CDPR effectively have a concession for the 2077 brand, as in it isn't proper cannon.
Maybe he's not willing to come out in favour until its fixed? It's a bit different from Sapkowski who I understand was grateful for the exposure for his books but didn't get gaming, Mike is a gamer and has a strong reputation I guess well see more of him once cdpr have saved face?
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What I found interesting were 2 little details:
1. CTO role to become more prominent and the technology layer playing an important part in the transformation. I hope this means CTO having more influence on final design decisions being taken, balancing Adam Badowski in this regard.
2. Switching to agile development in 2021. I mean, agile has been around for some time and I can see how sticking to waterfall type of development made them react slower to changes and eventually kind of "entrenched" in some areas of the game's design. Add to that short development cycle, a bit of communication chaos between teams, overreaching ideas and eventually COVID - a perfect storm for disaster.
EDIT: again this is just my personal opinion/speculation, I have no inside knowledge about the development process of the game.
1. CTO role to become more prominent and the technology layer playing an important part in the transformation. I hope this means CTO having more influence on final design decisions being taken, balancing Adam Badowski in this regard.
2. Switching to agile development in 2021. I mean, agile has been around for some time and I can see how sticking to waterfall type of development made them react slower to changes and eventually kind of "entrenched" in some areas of the game's design. Add to that short development cycle, a bit of communication chaos between teams, overreaching ideas and eventually COVID - a perfect storm for disaster.
EDIT: again this is just my personal opinion/speculation, I have no inside knowledge about the development process of the game.
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From what I've seen, Mike is active on reddit on the lowsodiumcyberpunk sub.
If the CTO has oversight and approval of marketing claims and launch timelines..... sounds like a different outcome for their next launch
Marketing? Probably not. But if he becomes a more prominent voice in the whole decision making process and has more say when it comes to validity of game features and mechanics vs engine capabilities, without being overruled by designers/directors - it could really make a difference.
Hey,
That's bold, hope they can manage.
However, I don't like them reaching wider for stuff like TV, merchandise, mobiles, mini-games like Gwent, online,...
Isn't one AAA game with expansions per like 5 years already enough?
Just do it right and the players will come on their own...?
That's bold, hope they can manage.
However, I don't like them reaching wider for stuff like TV, merchandise, mobiles, mini-games like Gwent, online,...
Isn't one AAA game with expansions per like 5 years already enough?
Just do it right and the players will come on their own...?
I realise he's active, he seems to be pretty guarded about what he thinks of the game though. Happy to talk about the lore etc