Thanks - I think I'll definitely pick it up over Christmas, sale or not.
Yes indeed.
Actually, if they were doing the proper Dark Knight Returns story, he'd be fucking awesome.
Be careful what you wish for..
Ahh.. Thats 5 minutes of my life i will never get back...
tim burton made batman cool.
Tim Burton did a lot of things...
I'm sure we can just agree to disagree on all of them...
If that offends you from Burton's version, I don't know why you wouldn't be offended by Batman comics in general since the introduction, sorry, the borrowing of Arkham Asylum of Lovecraft's, and I also don't know why true anarchists wouldn't be offended by being identified with a character with antisocial disorder as the Joker, and vice versa, how burn or acid victims wouldn't feel offended that both Two-face and the Joker automatically turn to crime after that, etc.
The thing is Two-face written right can have a lot of tragedy and a lot of redeeming qualities (see TAS as an example) and Penguin and Catwoman from Batman Returns are found as very attractive characters for a lot of the public in which I include myself. It's true that his Penguin deformed from birth, but not unlike the henchmen both the Joker and Two-face surround themselves with in the comics, maybe he was even a product of inbreeding in high society, in the end, the very theme of the story is "everyone has dark secrets that could at any moment come crawling up the toilet and bite them in the ass" (it's true for the -late- Cobblepot family, it's true for Cobblepot himself -scratching scene-, it's true for Max Schreck double -his papers and the attempted murder of Selina Kyle...-). As for this one's obsession with birds... that's arguable at least. Maybe I'm forgiving of this because the Batman of this saga wasn't all that heroic, ironically enough.
But as you begin your last post, I must end mine by saying it all reversed, again ironically enough, as you alluded my saying "Burton did this or that". Batman in his origins used a gun, Batman in his origins killed, he was as mysoginistic as any other pulp hero, and ever subject to propaganda making in times of war as an example. At some point, they decided to give his stories an edge, a distinction by making him fight a certain kind of villains: the mentally insane. And this sometimes came packed with deformities be it by accident or birth (Killer Croc) that were turned an excuse for their behaviour.
In the end, I think your post just shows how Burton is just a cheap shot. And yes, some people will give him praise and merits for things he hasn't done (like promoting him to director of films he's produced, or written or just sat near), but some will blame him for things he hasn't done. And if those two movies are so insensitive, isn't it more true to the original? What's the original? Just the comics from DKR onward?
This also has to do with the obsession of cleaning some authors' acts, like whitewashing Roal Dahl's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Tolkien or defending Lovecraft's work. The first I never liked, the second I've never seen the racist description of orcs in the text of the books but the third was more than I could take. And still people enjoy it and good for them if the ycan look past it.
I don't wish to alarm anyone, but...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/justin-bieber-robin-batman-vs-2273142