I don't deny that CDPR's bare minimum is still more wholesome than, say, current Bioware and Ubisoft's "maximum effort"If other games could at least do this "barely minimum", it would be great
None of them have exclusive romance quests. If Pyramid Song was romance exclusive, you wouldn't be able to play it as male V, and you can. Same goes for Kerry's and River's quests. The final quests are just the ones where the sex scene happens and in Judy's and River's cases, where majority of the romance dialogue is crammed into.
And Panam's final quest has almost as much romance specific dialogue options as all of Kerry's put together so.
Uh... That's quite the necro of my thread, guys. What for even? There's already a different thread regarding romances.
Okay, lol. That excuse is as dumb as "well, sonic game doesn't have police chases" from Paweł. So many times they assured us that V is our character, not theirs, so where's an option for my Valerie to be in monogamous relationship with Judy? I honestly gave up with CDPR long time ago, but every time I read something from them it's like they're digging a new low.
Oh, and let me just add. Judy would NOT be okay to be in poly relationship. She was salty AF that some chick was actually hitting on Maiko when they used to be together.
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Okay, lol. That excuse is as dumb as "well, sonic game doesn't have police chases" from Paweł. So many times they assured us that V is our character, not theirs, so where's an option for my Valerie to be in monogamous relationship with Judy? I honestly gave up with CDPR long time ago, but every time I read something from them it's like they're digging a new low.
Oh, and let me just add. Judy would NOT be okay to be in poly relationship. She was salty AF that some chick was actually hitting on Maiko when they used to be together.
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It just my interpretation and I could be wrong. Maybe for some reason they didn't record any dialogue where V could say they're in a relationship with someone else? In my opinion, roleplaying in Cyberpunk is lacking, so I wouldn't be surprised if V's view on relationships was decided for us.
Edit: but the explanation doesn't add up to me either. If everyone's cool with open relationships, why does V need to pick "the one" on the rooftop before picking the ending option? They can only call one person.
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I watched the clip you posted and it sounds like V seriously was supposed to be poly, because " the future! ". Really...? It's okay to admit you didn't have the time to record lines or add a proper romance mechanics, CDPR... Wouldn't be the only thing that's missing in the game anyway.
And like you said, roleplaying in CP is so limited it became very jarring for me in my second PT, especially in endings and how we're losing control over decisions V made. Or during "friendships" in game. You are literally not allowed to dislike someone. You can't dislike River, you can't Panam, even with Johnny is basically impossible, because if you want to do Kerry's quests, then V automatically becomes friendly with Silverhand and % progress jumps right at 50%.
We're literally forced to be BFFs with everyone.
This thread, unlike the other one, deals with the specific fact that, apparently, you can't roleplay your V as strictly gay, the game seems to assume V is bi if she or he dates the same gender, which is both interesting and odd
Yeah, I know that. It was discussed in old posts here as well, iirc. I understand that V is a set protagonist not a complete blank slate, but decisions like that should be left for the player to decide, not the game.
EDIT: Actually... Let me add that when Valerie and Judy agreed on their relationship, V actually said a lesbian joke. It's specifically for lesbians. Why would she call herself a lesbian in one minute just to go and bone a dude in another? This just inconsistent writing.
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This seems to come from the infamous rushed release date, because due to this dialogue it looks like it was planned to allow the roleplay of V as exclusively gay (as it should be possible, because even tho V is not blank-slate, she or he is not a Geralt type of PC either)
Mmmmhm, one of many rushed things. I remember what a pleasant surprise that joke was, V basically calling herself a lesbian. That was literally the first time I've heard player character calling herself that. I thought it was huge from CDPR part, a big step. But it means jackshit overall.
Like I said before, the "relationships" feel more like a "friends with benefits"
Being able to date among other fun side activates, also the option to move in with your
girlfriend / boyfriend if the choice is offered. And like you were saying, the option to say
"No, I'm in a relationship already"
This thread isn't about fixers and their annoying calls or repetitive gigs.
Another clip from the stream, thanks to whoever shared it on one of the subreddits. Sounds like they might have missed it. CDPR are pretty meticulous when it comes to details like this, so it's surprising that they missed it.
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It would be nice to have it "fixed". Might seem like a small thing, but it annoys the shit outta me and many other people.
Yeah it seem to be a "small" thing in theory, because it requite only to add 3 little dialogue lines to V (about Kerry, Judy or Panam).
But, in my opinion it also require a lot more, for female V at least
- If V (female) say that she already is in couple with Judy (no change for male V), it could be very weird for Joss to say that "River like V a lot" and also to say that "River and V would make a nice couple" (with the family vote^^). So all the dialogues around the table also have to be modified after that.
- It also require to modifying the whole water tower scene. River can't hope anything if he already know that V is already in couple with Judy... So all the dialogues have to be changed/removed/re-written.
And above all, it require to do it in all the available languages in the game (quite a few).
For "only" a small change, it require quite a good amount of work at the end
What story? Sasko admitted they just forgot about this "detail", so adding it would change nothing in the story except giving the player more control of their V and their relationships, which is badly needed.
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"Nice couple" comment could give an opportunity for FemV to just say "I'm a lesbian, bye.". Or "I have a girlfriend". That would shut Joss up for sure. But water tower scene would need some changes, yeah. Valerie jumps there from being a lesbian to complete straight with her previous ex boyfriends/bad pickup lines ONLY from MEN.Yeah it seem to be a "small" thing in theory, because it requite only to add 3 little dialogue lines to V (about Kerry, Judy or Panam).
But, in my opinion it also require a lot more, for female V at least
- If V (female) say that she already is in couple with Judy (no change for male V), it could be very weird for Joss to say that "River like V a lot" and also to say that "River and V would make a nice couple" (with the family vote^^). So all the dialogues around the table also have to be modified after that.
- It also require to modifying the whole water tower scene. River can't hope anything if he already know that V is already in couple with Judy... So all the dialogues have to be changed/removed/re-written.
And above all, it require to do it in all the available languages in the game (quite a few).
For "only" a small change, it require quite a good amount of work at the end
Can't stand that whole dinner scene. It's just so damn bad and cringe.
Yep
Or even before when Joss ask if you have someone in your life. If V answer : "Yes, I have. She's named Judy and I love her"
Subject closed for the rest of the diner