Plenty of time before we will see multiplayer (2023?) but I fully support this idea. played PnP CP2020 with my friends and first of all would like to see good co-op.
I agreed with you up to this quote.
That video contains a couple of manipulations:
- Showing casino content, and making a fun because it looks different from concepts - right, the place with casino is not even in the playable area of map - that's the same case like with TW3 and HOS expansion, the terrain under HOS expansion was empty and just a mock
- Exploding cars when NPC starts to drive - this is scripted and intended, you can hear that NPCs are complaining about live or they feel threatened. The "event" is fully intentional and scripted, but yeah - it suits the narrative to cherry pick some aspects and compare to other games.
Finishing that: I'm also looking forward for fixes, better balance and more content to play - so no offense!
OMG! I totally forgot about it!
I also bought the game on GOG because it said that it was the best way to support the devs.
Another thing to put in my list of “How CDPR made me feel like an idiot”
Most of those were released (at least where I am) late like 11-12PM and also they release updates right before weekends so that people can have more time to play, that's a good choice. I guess it's either gonna be here late today or some time tomorrow. People are going back to what caused this, in the first place. Whining about delivery all the time instead of requiring quality and then if quality is not there they start whining about quality LOL.
Well, they were the ones to give us the 10 day time period.
Day 9. Will they make their self imposed deadline for the the next patch? Remember he said 10 days from the 13th.
Well, technically it's been 14th. So, I expect the patch 24 or 25 the early morning for Poland time (their time zone UTC +1, I live at UTC +3 a Timezone country).
Seriously ?
Now we will be discussing patch delay because of different time zones, because 10 days may be 10 working days, because technically 13th was 14th for some people ? Maybe let's discuss why RTX 3080 users should get it first, then people who own Ford Fiesta and people who are living in Egypt at the end ?
Now we will be discussing patch delay because of different time zones, because 10 days may be 10 working days, because technically 13th was 14th for some people ? Maybe let's discuss why RTX 3080 users should get it first, then people who own Ford Fiesta and people who are living in Egypt at the end ?
This. Spot on.
I also want this game to succeed, if only to regain the feeling of awesomeness the pre-release footage and promises cultivated for a too long a time. For now we have a good game with quite a few shortcomings (bugs, missing content) and incomplete support for platforms advertised as supported.
If I had anything to add to this view would be just an example of a developer who are not hiding behind their finger if a product is half-baked: Larian studios. This worked wonders on DoS2, plus seems to have kept criticism for BG3 as low as possible in the beginning. If anyone is still playing that game it is someone who still values good feedback and wants to help.
I am willing to bet that if this December release was a PC-only purchasable beta/release-candidate version which:
- would set correct expectations in terms of finished content;
- would set an achievable release date goal (ie a year from now for full release with all bells and whistles);
- would push the console release back until feedback from PC player-base would minimize bug-squashing time for the devs;
- would have a serious manual logging tool for direct in-game feedback (instead of the questionable and massive random data collection happening now with "data sharing") to minimize random data and make bug hunting more specific/scenario-based;
- would manage to "exploit" any fan-base criticism or suggestions on quests/areas/gameplay;
then
- this game might have been available even earlier (delays for consoles might not have been so badly needed);
- no legal action could claim people were fooled;
- no player could bash a game in beta/release-candidate stage without receiving backlash from the community itself;
- no need for "apologies", just promise hard work;
- devs would have more time to suppress the porting to consoles due to people helping to find bugs faster;
- refunds would be the norm for anyone who rushed to buy and did not check it is an unfinished game, but that would have been a controllable financial figure and not a complete removal from a store AND the contract-breaking events and loss of confidence to not only the fanbase but also the partners (MS and Sony, let's say)... not to mention the disaster in share value (maybe one should check who turned their overblown shares to cash in on the last days before release, you never know what one could find there...).
Well, we learn as we grow, I suppose, and CDPR is still growing - although CDPR would do well to trace things back and get rid of people who actively supressed/ignored dev feedback to reinforce unachievable timetables and workloads, leading to contract breaches, hatching class-action lawsuits, government scrutiny and serious fanbase backlash.
If the people providing negative (or negative-sounding) feedback here can be considered toxic, then just consider that the root cause of the toxic waste filling these and innumerable other boards still lies within CDPR.
Good luck on your "monster" hunting CDPR (but maybe avoid making this an internal inquisition or a meaningless "head-hunt for the masses event", you really need capable people, not capable marketing/PR, we all saw what the last one achieved).
Just another rant by your friendly neighborhood choomba... cheers @Lilayah and CDPR people, we still believe, despite the harsh words
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Glad to hear you figured that out.
Yes, but I am. You can't complain about gameplay when it literally hasn't changed in decades. The original top down GTA is the same game as 6. Better visuals, more filler, but it is the same gameplay. If someone is going to say the gameplay is lacking it's just a non point. Don't enjoy it? Fine. Again, what were you expecting from a game with current hardware?
Fair enough. The Police system in this game certainly doesn't align with other games that have come before. I personally haven't had much of an issue with it. Some funny moments for sure though.
What bad concepts? I am looking at the description for Cyberpunk 2077 and it doesn't contain any false advertising in my eyes.
You are getting a little literal here... Yes, different games have different gameplay.. You were stating the gameplay was not impressive, it was lacking... I posed the fact to you: new gameplay is non existent until hardware and input/method of game interaction evolves. CP is a ridiculously enjoyable game for me gameplay-wise.
No idea what you are talking about here. No one is the internet police here, everyone can have their opinion. I'll stick with what I said though:
But people claiming it is terrible, superficial, whatever, is just false.
Which is true.
