Here is an easy way to know if it is something else from a looter shooter. If you can finish the entire game without leveling up and ONLY loot the best guns that pop from enemies, it is a looter shooter.
And that is what you can do in Cyberpump 2069
And that is what you can do in Cyberpump 2069
CP2077 is a pretty bad looter shooter if it was one. Loot in lootershooters tends to be fun and exciting which the stuff in CP2077 is just not.
Just like with RPGs, theres more to looter shooters than just shooting to loot. Like really good mechanics built around that which CP2077 doesn't have. I'd imagine the game very much was an RPG at some point but everything interesting about the game was cut to meet the release date.
Just like with RPGs, theres more to looter shooters than just shooting to loot. Like really good mechanics built around that which CP2077 doesn't have. I'd imagine the game very much was an RPG at some point but everything interesting about the game was cut to meet the release date.
I totally agree, and I am not bashing borderlands in any way. It is just not what we wanted from cyberpunk. Also I hate Looter Shooters it is lazy game design and the most common way to milk gamers for money.
I've seen them. I disagree with many of their premises and conclusions.
You and I are apparently playing different games. All of that does not resemble the game I'm quite enjoying.
If having choices in certain quests is not it.
If a progression system doesn't mean much to you.
If Attributes and Perks are just "meaningless" things to click
If Romance options isn't considered
If customizing your character is nothing.
If your build and playstyle is different to mine, different to other players here, and this game is still not an RPG somehow then there is little to discuss in my opinion.
I feel like some people are working backwards from their conclusion, and not reasoning right. Yeah you're disappointed with the launch, but hello this is indeed an RPG.
If a progression system doesn't mean much to you.
If Attributes and Perks are just "meaningless" things to click
If Romance options isn't considered
If customizing your character is nothing.
If your build and playstyle is different to mine, different to other players here, and this game is still not an RPG somehow then there is little to discuss in my opinion.
I feel like some people are working backwards from their conclusion, and not reasoning right. Yeah you're disappointed with the launch, but hello this is indeed an RPG.
They pulled the trigger and the rocket just flew out bruh lol Hitting everybody in different ways
I agree but not a full RPG. More like 66,6(6)% RPG, with stealth, action and adventure mixed in
Is World of Warcraft an RPG? it lacks real narrative choices, consequences, I'd consider cyberpunk more of an RPG than wow!
What dialogue "choices"? It's already been proven that 98% of the choices you make lead to the exact same outcome, with that other 2% where you actually do have a different outcome are extreme outliers to to the rule. This game is just an Action/Adventure/Sandbox with "RPG elements", which basically every single AAA game has anymore anyway.
All of wow dialogue is just a text window, and that's an RPG. this is inherently more of an RPG than wow is!
How did you come up with 98% you got the math? I'm sure many decision changed how approached missions and also the ending?
You know an RPG can often be what you make of it. The more open world and reactive the better, but I mean independent of quest choices.
For example. I don't always play like this but I did during my last session:
I had a job across town, a place to hit and some info to secure. I suited up in normal clothes and drove (like a normal person ) from my apartment to the location. I checked the place out from my car then I drove a few more blocks, parked in an ally and walked to a nearby vendor to spend some money and look around. Afterwards I staked out the location - I found out there was about a dozen enemies, a few civies as well, in this place, and that there was a connection to that vendor I went to . Sometimes the environment tells the story.
I found handful of entrances, including one from the upper floors.
I went back to my apartment. Took a shower and a nap. I woke up and it's late now. Hit my stash to gear out and put on my edgerunner gear. Hopped on my bike and tore across the city.
I really felt immersed at this point. I had done my pre-planning and now my planning. I was gonna hit this place hard, loud and fast and be gone.
Just as I pulled up on my bike my phone goes off. Its Panam, she needs help now.
What kind of friend am I? Do I blow off this job and high tail it right to her? Do I stick the plan and pull an all-nighter, hitting this place and then head out of the city?
I eneded up going ahead with the mission, but even though there were no dialogue choices and no special quests holding my hand, I felt fully immersed in the role-playing experience.
Yeah, I wish it had the reactivity that they told us about in the 2018 trailer, had the world we were promised, but there's enough there. Its an RPG. But its also what you make of it.
For example. I don't always play like this but I did during my last session:
I had a job across town, a place to hit and some info to secure. I suited up in normal clothes and drove (like a normal person ) from my apartment to the location. I checked the place out from my car then I drove a few more blocks, parked in an ally and walked to a nearby vendor to spend some money and look around. Afterwards I staked out the location - I found out there was about a dozen enemies, a few civies as well, in this place, and that there was a connection to that vendor I went to . Sometimes the environment tells the story.
I found handful of entrances, including one from the upper floors.
I went back to my apartment. Took a shower and a nap. I woke up and it's late now. Hit my stash to gear out and put on my edgerunner gear. Hopped on my bike and tore across the city.
I really felt immersed at this point. I had done my pre-planning and now my planning. I was gonna hit this place hard, loud and fast and be gone.
Just as I pulled up on my bike my phone goes off. Its Panam, she needs help now.
What kind of friend am I? Do I blow off this job and high tail it right to her? Do I stick the plan and pull an all-nighter, hitting this place and then head out of the city?
I eneded up going ahead with the mission, but even though there were no dialogue choices and no special quests holding my hand, I felt fully immersed in the role-playing experience.
Yeah, I wish it had the reactivity that they told us about in the 2018 trailer, had the world we were promised, but there's enough there. Its an RPG. But its also what you make of it.
Ah see this was my question as well. Not being an RPG player I had a different idea of what an RPG would be like. After playing through to the end of the story in CP2077 I felt like the character V's role was underdeveloped and really lacked any divergent paths. Shame that each of the life path options really only gives you a unique initial cut scene then the rest story is the same for all 3 and you can't deviate other than just not do the storyline. Maybe I am missing something in my first play through.
I like your approach but I find as a M&K user the inability to actually just walk around the environment without sprinting everywhere is just too immersion breaking as is walking everywhere crouched so you don't collide with all NPC. A walk speed toggle would make the immersion more interesting.
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I like your approach but I find as a M&K user the inability to actually just walk around the environment without sprinting everywhere is just too immersion breaking as is walking everywhere crouched so you don't collide with all NPC. A walk speed toggle would make the immersion more interesting.
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