Question about weapon stats and perks

[n0mjaS]

So i have 300h in the game now, but i never cared to check stats and if perks worked or not (i guess i just assumed they did), but in current playthrough i wanted to check if my shotgun perks work (crit chance and crit dmg), but on stats page nothing changes when i get the perk.Saving and reloading does nothing either.
Is there a reliable way to check if the perks actually work?

Actually during writing this i did a little bit of testing, and its quite interesting what i noticed.
So i have 2 shotguns on me, Tactician and Igla.
I took 2 Annihilation perks - Buldozer and Massacre, +5% Crit and +10% crit dmg were added directly onto Tactitian, which was equipped at the time (nothing on Igla).
Then i swapped to Igla, took another +10% crit dmg perk - nothing was added to Igla, but Tactitian now had +20%.
Removed both to backpack, added +10% crit dmg perk, and... you guessed it right, Tactitian has now +30% and Igla still nothing.

On stats page crit chance and crit dmg stayed the same, but dps has risen, so im assuming those are real stats.
But only for tactitian, because nothing has changed for Igla lol

Is this a known bug or whats going on here? Im afraid to check other perks now

Edit: reloaded save and equipped Igla this time and sure enough all of the stats from perks went directly onto Igla

 

[LeKill3rFou]

Yep, you have to equip weapons to add your "perks bonuses"
(And I believe that you have to hold the weapon for updating the stats page, but not sure)

 

[n0mjaS]

Ok mystery solved, thanks lol

 

[Netrunner2go]

yeah weapons need to be equipped and drawn out to show their complete/real/buffed stats.

 

[n0mjaS]

Ill use this topic instead of making new one, even though its not about perks, but...

About upgrading weapon. Overwatch disappeared from upgrading options. Im at level 47, i just upgraded Sovereign and it is stil there, but blocked (until im 48), but Overwatch isnt there anymore since at least few levels. Some random topics on reddit from 1 year ago say few different things, one of them that weapon is simply capped, but DPS on my weapon is 544, while in crafting menu shows 644, so i doubt its the case.

Known bug, any ideas?

 

[LeKill3rFou]

Some random topics on reddit from 1 year ago say few different things, one of them that weapon is simply capped, but DPS on my weapon is 544, while in crafting menu shows 644, so i doubt its the case.

So DPS means "nothing" because it take account of character stats, perks,etc...
The "fix" value is the "base" damages.
So can you provide the stats or a screenchot of your Overwatch (unequiped, simply stored in your inventory).
I'll compare with mine if there is any difference

I suspect that Overwatch can have the same issue than some melee weapons pre 1.5, which you were able to upgrade them above you own level. So in short, they could possibly reach the level 50 even if your character wasn't.

 

[n0mjaS]

Post automatically merged: Aug 1, 2022

i know dps may vary, I checked base damage on crafted one too, just didnt write about it ;p

 

[LeKill3rFou]

Ok, so I believe my guess is very possible and your Overwatch is already level 50.
On my level 50 character.
No perk to increase crafting abilities (damages bonuses on crafted weapons).
In order :
- As I acquired it.

- Upgraded in Epic.

- The view of the stats if I upgrade to legendary (player level - 1 > level 49). Those stats are completely wrong indeed^^

- Upgraded in legendary (level 49).

- Upgraded once, it reach the level 50 (max) and obviously, it does no longer appear in the upgrading tab.


As you can see, mine have "similar" stats than your (the difference is maybe due to your crafting perks or the fact that I don't meet the body requirement). So I'm quite confident that Overwatch can be upgraded to the level 50 before that your character reach it and your one have already reached the level 50 even if you're not level 50 yet.

 

[n0mjaS]

hmm interesting, thanks. well if its the case then i dont mind.
(i assumed those stats when you hover over the weapon in crafting tab, mean what you get at level 50)
anyway going back to grind to 100% ;p

Post automatically merged: Aug 1, 2022

Btw this is mine when you look at crafting tab

 

[LeKill3rFou]

Yep the third screenshot it's in the crafting tab when I was about to craft it from epic to legendary.
But it was the same in the upgrading tab when I was about to upgrading it to the level 50.

Those stats are wrong and you can also notice that the firerate stat is wrong too, it show 0.28 in our screenshots when it's always at 0.30 when crafted