Here is news, gunplay can be fun in 3rd person yo, i mean look end scene when you are in cyberspace and you talk with V she don't even have face animation her lips don't move, again why people who love 1st person don't want option to toggle 1st person or 3rd person in single player game ????
Am I just missing it or is FPS the only interface?
Should at least have the same as FO4 where if you stand still and idle after a while the camera start circling around you so you can get a good look at your clothes and or weapons.
Please at least add something like that also maybe in our own place add a full size mirror so you can see legs and feet and able to turn around like in inventory but in a mirror instead or something like that.
Well, how nice then that we are just playing a game, in which you yourself are not present, but where you take over the control over a character. A character that screams to be seen *in-game by some players now and then.Thing is, normally I get dressed, check how I look and say go to the local town. Do I look in shop windows to see what I look like, NO. Do I stop at every mirror I may see, NO. Do I even notice the reflections of me walking past a large window, sometimes.
Well, how nice then that we are just playing a game, in which you yourself are not present, but where you take over the control over a character. A character that screams to be seen *in-game by some players now and then.
Not the first 2-5 minutes. It's that part of the game that I was referring to at my previous post.
1) because it's made as FP game!
2) because there is no decent 1st person rpg with FPS mechanics! (Fallout and Outer World doesn't counts for me at least)
3) cause CDPR would have to remake almost whole game to make it in 3rd !!!!!
1) Um, no... no problem to be found. To be clear, I'm against generalizing myself, BUT ... I tend to speak for many when I'm confident that many are likeminded, and I always refer to them. Ultimately topics like these wouldn't exist if such likeminded people didn't exist.1) ...you (or I) can not truly speak for WE you can state your own viewpoint as being the same as everyone else's but not speak for them.
2) Number 2, Although I am very aware the desire for 3PP is strong, the game was released as intended, only 1PP which as you said is 'just playing a game' now I will use the 'we' in a sense. Those I know from threads such as this and game friends of over 20 years, 'we' play 1PP for one reason, imersion to BE the character not the 3PP which is to take control of a body fully shown on the screen.
3) TBH I have never heard anyone say they have actually heard their character scream to be seen, did you mean when your shot or hit? (Yes a joke) as I do not take this sort of discussion as seriously as you. It's discussion on preferences and I gave an example of how 'generally' in real life we do not look at ourselves all the time.
What's the bloody point in giving us the ability to 'look cool' if the only time we see it is in Photo Mode or when looking in the mirror? Hell, Destiny gets this by putting you in 3rd person when you're in a 'non-combat zone' (ie Tower).
It's how this word "immersion" is conveniently (over)used the past few years by the game developers (and later by gamers in favor of 1st person)
The mirror is a cut scene. It's all fakery. Think of the mirrors like the scene in Terminator 2. When they have Linda Hamilton's sister on the other side of the "mirror". To do the chip removal scene.https://forums.cdprojektred.com/ind...rd-person-view.11040872/page-27#post-12690752
There I explained the possibility of the game applying a mimicant mirrored model of V and a mirrored background to fake a mirror view to avoid seeing a headless V in the mirror, and that the game restricts the mirror viewing into an actual action to limit the viewrange into the mirror, so that the background in mirrorview can be confined to a certain volume.
To strengthen this theory: When V looks in the mirror in his/her appartement, then the window shutters close if they were still open, probably to avoid rendering a whole cityscape into the assumed faked mirrorview. The moment you stop viewing into the mirror, the window shutters suddenly open again. You don't need a mod to check that one out.
I can see a much larger area around me. And since CD project didn't think to have companion AI's yell out "BEHIND YOU!" While characters flank behind. I wouldn't fall for it. I'd see them. Go try playing Overwatch, using Reinhardt. When he uses his shield. He goes into 3rd person. Now imagine playing the game. With his shield in first person only. You be fucked.A reason a little better than looking at yourself would justify the discussion point.
But you can't deny that this term is being used a lot since the announcement of forced 1st person in CP2077. The developers started to use it as a reason (or excuse, but that's another debate) to strengthen their decision, later used en masse as an argument by other players. I've read that word way more during the past 2-3 years then I've read or heard it before in my whole life. Even to the point that it was my most hated word for the year 2018.I really appreciate your reply, hence the red point (like?) but i think this 'immersion' thing really came from the Players of 1PP before the Dev's jumped on board. I've always (99%) played 1PP it's how I feel I'm 'IN' the game and that's important to me, immersion was my word to use from 25+ years ago and no Internet, never seen it from a Dev, just other like minded players.
This I believe came when Dev's caught up with their players and started to add 'immersion' or 'immersive' into their comments. Got to add I don't really read Dev stuff (or very little) it's all Hype and can never be truly believed. When I see a player say 'I felt 'immersed' I believe that, 1pp or 3pp. If a Dev's rambles on 'this is a totally immersive game' (do they say that?) I would just laugh TBH. They only see the game from a Dev's viewpoint which is tainted, like a MA sees their Mod 'differently' to a user.
No, at least I don't think it's beneficial for the game at all. But does it need to be? The same goes for other things, like for example romance options. Some features in a game may be present just for the sake of entertainment. That's by the way the answer I had in mind at an older post.When you put the gear on in your Inventory you get a good look at what your characters 'cool' level is. Is there really a need that's beneficial to the game itself to see how you look all the time. Sorry I really can not understand this, unless it's like one of those 3PP games where 1PP is just totally impractical.
Oh No I would never deny that, it was used exactly as you say, was just more of were it started. Was it the gamers who talked on immersion in games (years ago) or did the Dev's start it, I think it was the players.But you can't deny that this term is being used a lot since the announcement of forced 1st person in CP2077.
I can see a much larger area around me. And since CD project didn't think to have companion AI's yell out "BEHIND YOU!" While characters flank behind. I wouldn't fall for it. I'd see them. Go try playing Overwatch, using Reinhardt. When he uses his shield. He goes into 3rd person. Now imagine playing the game. With his shield in first person only. You be fucked.
It's intentional to increase immersion but I'd prefer it. I think the game would have more comparisons to GTA which is what they're trying to avoid but I guess it's bound to happen so why not. Look at Sleeping Dogs, Saints Row and the Yakuza series.
NPCs and objects in reflections off windows and such but where you are suppose to be in the reflection you are simply not there.
If photomode is your justification, then they might as well just do away with all clothing in the game. The entire point of having different style clothing is for you to actually see them for more than 30 seconds to take a screenshot in an entire gameplay.They announced in June 2018 that it would be FPP other than while driving and very rarely in some cutscenes. There are of course mirrors and the photomode to see V.
There is a photomode.
That's a fact indeed. Unless a moderator suddenly closes this thread for some reason, I think it will live on for a while, long past the day that I decide to leave this topic for what it is and to move on.I like 1PP others like 3PP, that's fine by me 100%, it's the this is better than that (which I do get involved in and should not as it's a never ending discussion) sort of like PvP, causes many an excited thread. He He