Up to level 11 they are really good and their skills are nice , not to mention one of the good builds seems to be this onewhat are you talking about? i have the feeling the pistols are the weakest weapons of all of them. seemingly it just depends on how you build your skill tree...
No, you do not see what I meant, I am not saying the pistols have to be weak, I think the huge machine guns and small but fast SM guns have to feel more or less BETTER than pistols
It sorta is though or are you using harsh language to kill enemies?
This is just completely wrong. I can auto pilot through the game on the hardest difficulty with skippy because my headshots with a smart pistol that auto locks on heads do on average about 8k damage a shot without having any weapon mods added into the mix. I can take a low level burya or overture and one tap any enemy in the game with my perk distribution. And with crafting you can make weapons with an innate 80% crit chance and 200% crit damage, like I did for my revolverOnce you get to high enough levels pistols don't work anymore. They will literally do no damage to enemies. You'll need a weapon that's hitting for over a thousand damage a hit with massive crit chance.
Enemies get stat bloat so badly that they will be immune to hit under 1K damage because of armor.
it's important to remember that revolvers have smaller chance to apply effects like burning, because of slower fire rate and reload.Im wondering why pistols are so OP. Machine guns are supposed to be not just bigger but also normally do more dmg per bullet. But I guess for some balance reasons the bullet from any automatic weapon /of the same quality and level/ is in fact weaker than the one from a revolver and magazine pistol. Is it just balance ? But simple logic says the pistol or handgun as they call it must be weaker than all other ranged weapons ... Pistols have another hidden quality , well, it is not in fact hidden - the reload time is shorter. Now, the only reason I shoot with something that is not a pistol and not my unique rifle IS TO HAVE FUN AND VARIETY. If I play on hardest , I am sure I will choose pistols only +melee. What do you think ?
I do not agree, for "tourists" you have normal difficulty, above that, the game should make sense in terms of mechanics optimization in my opinion.Black Unicorn is my preferred method of execution. With sand mk3 you can kill 10 guys before the first 1 hits the floor.
The point is that everything is OP if you put some thought into what you're doing, so saying this and that is OP is dumb, the game is designed for tourists, not min-maxers and I'm ok with that.
Pfff, pistols OP. Please..... my sniper rifle hits for 1,5 million damage in headshot and my Satori katana hits for 70k power attack critical hit and my Suicide legendary hack one-shots enemies for 150k. My Assault rifle shots 3 shot burst fire, each bullet dealing 25k headshot dmg, that's 75k one burst.
Pistols are not OP. Everything is OP with Reflex and Cool+Cold Blood tree.
The only pistol that can really dish out damage close to these (not to sniper rifle lol but to Satori or assault rifle) is Overtune. But you have only 6 shots and can't shoot through walls.
Not to mention I can quick Hack through walls Contaigon (8K damage DOT on huge AOE for enemies) + Suicide (2 enemies insta kill) and clear out whole 2 floors of enemies before I even step into building.
That is all on very hard, level 45.
To be fair, the game really only feels balanced to level 25-30 or so. You're really supposed to have passed the point of no return by then. Beyond that, you're becoming a god (with an even slightly well-thought out build), it's really just power creep IMO. The levels post-30, to me, feel like they are just power creep to let everyone be able to finish the game one way or another, regardless of difficulty.
A quadriplegic playing the game on a tablet with their tongue should be able to finish it at level 50 on Very Hard, if they just focus their build on a specific set of strengths. The average gamer can do the same at level 35 or so.
Yeah, I mean that's my point. I finished it at 22 and kind of felt sleighted that that was the end-game.Spec into the weapon of your choice, and they'll slaughter anything. The pistol is the first basic weapon you choose and is probably why you react. If you specced into rifles, then it would be very powerful compared to other weapons.
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I finished the game at level 25, and I was using pistol and rifle against Adam Smasher and Oda.
Then I went back to the save before the meeting at Embers, and are currently doing side-quests and finishing off what I didn't do. I even started to upgrade my gear and weapons after starting from that save.
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