Rumours and Speculations

[cara2100]

[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8xicgLdsDPg[/video]

just some recent stuff speculations about e3

You can be sure it's never an accident.:cheers:

 

[LordCorvin1]

I don't understand what the fuss is about FPP? Original Deus Ex was like that and is still one of the greatest games ever made. You had dialog via 3rd person, RPG and oroper immersion. It's like people haven't played original Deus Ex. Go play it.

 

[animalfather]

So Vodafone and CP2077 are doing a collab commercial...

this is HUGE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAssXnR6kJk from the madqueen. i think the game is coming 2018 probably late 2018 a month after RDR2.

 

[AsadaShino0821]

I think releasing the game between 2018/9 to 2019/5 (Is the best time~~) :comeatmebro:

 

[animalfather]

I feel like the buzz for this new trailer is up there with the buzz for a new GTA trailer. This trailer will BREAK the internet for sure.

 

[animalfather]

I don't understand what the fuss is about FPP? Original Deus Ex was like that and is still one of the greatest games ever made. You had dialog via 3rd person, RPG and oroper immersion. It's like people haven't played original Deus Ex. Go play it.

ya sorry grandpa most players today were not even born then. and the combat of deus ex is not what made it great, the combat was pretty shait. i think most people including myself wanted GTA:Neo Tokyo. seeing your character walk through the crowd ect ect. being fps eliminates that. but this is just a rumor. hopefully its 3rd person and changes to 1st during combat.

 

[Shavod]

this is HUGE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAssXnR6kJk from the madqueen. i think the game is coming 2018 probably late 2018 a month after RDR2.

Nah, Mike Pondsmith confirmed on reddit that in this interview he talked about the old teaser from 2013, the interview with Vodafone happened six months earlier.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkg...berpunk_and_hiroki_endos_eden_share_a_common/

I would share the image, but for some reason I can't upload it.

 

[Kuboniusz]

Nah, Mike Pondsmith confirmed on reddit that in this interview he talked about the old teaser from 2013, the interview with Vodafone happened six months earlier.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkg...berpunk_and_hiroki_endos_eden_share_a_common/

I would share the image, but for some reason I can't upload it.

Actually, he said this:

Actually, that interview is SIX MONTHS OLD. Draw your own conclusions from that, neh?

This comment was written 70 days ago and from my understanding the interview would have been about 8 months old.
Plus he talks in future tense.
Go figure

 

[Gizmo0]

https://mp1630k065.mapyourshow.com/7_0/exhibitor/exhibitor-details.cfm?ExhID=cMVYnmG6#

Since this says PS4 and XBOX1, do peeps around here consider that confirmation for this gen? There was speculation that the release window could coincide with next gen, and rumors that devs were already getting dev kits.

They stated that they are ready for next gen whenever it hits, but it doesn't confirm of next gen coming, only that game will be compatible with it whenever it will. That was my understanding of it

 

[Shavod]

This comment was written 70 days ago and from my understanding the interview would have been about 8 months old. Plus he talks in future tense. Go figure

I wouldn't really put too much focus on Mike talking in future tense, since what he said for the interview was in English, then translated to Spanish, then to English again, so God knows what he actually originally said.

 

[Kuboniusz]

They stated that they are ready for next gen whenever it hits, but it doesn't confirm of next gen coming, only that game will be compatible with it whenever it will. That was my understanding of it

Could be the rumoured backwards compatibility of the next gen consoles. It might also be that CDPR already know about it.

 

[sv3672]

I don't think it's confirmation necessarily either way. It's not like they can list the game for unannounced consoles.

The list can also be just a placeholder. For example, Bethesda's shows PS3 and Xbox 360, yet it seems unlikely they would actually release something on those.

Blech. YongYea.

Who knows, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Could be the rumoured backwards compatibility of the next gen consoles. It might also be that CDPR already know about it.

That seems plausible, especially now that the consoles are essentially just PCs with a locked down operating system, so porting PS4 and XB1 titles to the next generation could be more like the "HD" patches for the upgraded versions of the current consoles.

 

[Rawls]

IGN is up with a new "everything we know" article on Cyberpunk 2077. http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/04/30/cyberpunk-2077-all-news-trailers-gameplay-and-rumors

I still like this one from a month ago better for lore - https://www.pcgamer.com/everything-we-know-about-cyberpunk-2077/

But yeah, good refreshers for anybody who is new-ish about the source material and various tidbits that have come out over the years.

 

[Snowflakez]

The list can also be just a placeholder. For example, Bethesda's shows PS3 and Xbox 360, yet it seems unlikely they would actually release something on those.

Who knows, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

The guy just seems slimy to me, and not just because he pooped on muh precious CDPR a few months back.

Good catch on the Bethesda thing. Huh.

 

[Snowflakez]

This isn't new. It made the rounds a month or two back.

Most of us drew the conclusion that CDPR wouldn't use an obscure spanish commercial to distribute major information about their game or their marketing plans.

 

[SigilFey]

I saw that over month ago, I'm surprised only now people actually noticed that on reddit.

Not everyone is as bored as you are...

All news is important. My first posts were on the blog posts back then... at that point certain doors still seemed more open than now. Now it's just about keeping my fingers crossed for a couple of things even though not much else has been said since... Weird.

Precisely why I try to avoid all semblance of hype. (In fact, some of my mostest favoritest games in whole-wide-world were games that I stumbled upon, having heard nothing about them before I actually played: XCOM, MDK, Outcast, Nox, Thief...) There's a lot of magic wound up by being totally surprised. That vanishes when people go in with expectations.

 

[Razrback16]

Hey question guys - in the IGN article Rawls linked above, there is this quote: “It’s about telling story via what happens, not cutscenes or other features,” Kanik said. “To do that we need to create a totally new unique dialogue system – we’re doing that right now, it should be awesome.”

Anyone heard much in the way of additional details there - are there going to be no cutscenes at all, very few, etc.? Just curious as this was the first mention I'd seen of the implication of a reduction of cutscenes / dialogue system changes. Always looking for more details.

Thanks!

 

[Snowflakez]

Hey question guys - in the IGN article Rawls linked above, there is this quote: “It’s about telling story via what happens, not cutscenes or other features,” Kanik said. “To do that we need to create a totally new unique dialogue system – we’re doing that right now, it should be awesome.”

Anyone heard much in the way of additional details there - are there going to be no cutscenes at all, very few, etc.? Just curious as this was the first mention I'd seen of the implication of a reduction of cutscenes / dialogue system changes. Always looking for more details.

Thanks!

No mention of that system since, it could have been canned.

The feeling I got was that they would use "Actions have consequences" as storytelling. So, you blow up a building during a missions, and the building blows up. In real-time. Maybe cops arrive, maybe robots later arrive to fix it. No cutscenes. Just actions and their consequences - you probably don't want to be in the area when it goes down.

Deciding whether or not to blow up the building with your hacker buddy may not occur during a cutscene, but live gameplay - maybe you just press an on-screen button to give him the order, or maybe you walk away to leave him to his own devices.

That's the assumption I got, but it could be something totally different. The reason I buy this concept a bit more is because CDPR plans (according to leaks I fully believe in) to use the TW3 "Season" system to generate things like robots repairing buildings and stuff like that.

Regardless, this is all speculation. CDPR themselves haven't talked about this dialogue system at all, but since they seemed so excited about it ("it should be awesome") one could hope it's still in the works or maybe even finished at this point.

 

[Rawls]

Anyone heard much in the way of additional details there - are there going to be no cutscenes at all, very few, etc.? Just curious as this was the first mention I'd seen of the implication of a reduction of cutscenes / dialogue system changes. Always looking for more details.

It's a very old quote from 2013 I think. http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/...into-cyberpunk is the article they linked to.

Spoiler

CYBERPUNK 2077: PUTTING THE PUNK BACK INTO CYBERPUNK


CD Projekt reveals a little more about Cyberpunk 2077, its open-world science-fiction epic.

If you ask Cyberpunk 2020 creator Mike Pondsmith, most cyberpunk games aren’t cyberpunk at all. They’re just third-person shooters, racers or action games with a cyberpunk veneer, a grimy sci-fi aesthetic that doesn’t actually translate into anything especially interesting in-game besides the odd augment. “Most people think cyberpunk is just a summary of specific tropes; big guns, dark streets and dangerous guys in ubiquitous leather dusters,” writes Pondsmith in the first of a series of excellent blogs on the Cyberpunk 2077 website. “But the core of cyberpunk is a lot more subtle than that. Cyberpunk is about the seductive qualities of corruption and decay… It doesn’t have to be dirty or grimy on the physical level. But on the psycho-social level, even the cleanest and most orderly Corp-zone should be rife with darkness and collapse.”

What a perfect world for The Witcher’s digital curators to step into. In CD Projekt Red’s interpretation, The Witcher’s world is rife with vice, moral corruption and ambiguity, with selfish kings and opportunistic killers. If anyone is a hero, they are a reluctant one. The Witcher games evoke all the themes and ambience of the original books’ world without relying on their characters, their plots or situations; they are calmly, self-confidently adult, and entirely their own. If I ever create a fictional universe, I’d hope CD Projekt makes a game out of it.

The Witcher’s writer Andrzej Sapkowski isn’t enormously enamoured with video games as a whole (actually he seems to kind of hate them despite expressing respect for CD Projekt’s work), but Cyberpunk 2020 creator Mike Pondsmith seems able to better appreciate the developer’s gift for realising fictional universes in interactive form. After a few failed games based on the Cyberpunk franchise in the past, he seemed justifiably nervous about letting another developer at it, says game director Mateusz Kanik – until he came to visit CDP in Poland.

“At the beginning he was really scared. You could see that on his face,” Mateusz laughs. “There have been attempts at Cyberpunk games in the past and each of them was bad, and he was scared it would be the same again. But he came to us at the beginning and met the team, and we talked about vision, ideas, how we want to approach this adaptation of his work – and when he left he was extremely happy about it. So I think it was OK from then on.”

Cyberpunk 2077 has been at the back of CDP’s mind since even before The Witcher was out. The team has spoken before about their collective love for the original pen-and-paper RPG, which many of them had played as teenagers in then-Communist Poland, where it was hardly a mainstream pastime. Whilst making the Witcher, the developer came up with plenty of ideas that just weren’t usable in a fantasy RPG, and Cyberpunk was a dream property to work with.

Character customisation, for instance, was necessarily not an option in Geralt’s world. But in Cyberpunk 2077, it’s self-defined role-playing: your style and personality will have deep and far-reaching effects on the world and how it reacts to you. “We will have several features that allow you to create your [visual] style, and your style will affect gameplay, storyline and relationships between characters,” explains creative director Sebastian Stepien. “Your appearance and your dress will change the behaviour of NPCs, and also the story also in some parts,” Mateusz adds. Style and appearance works together with the personality you create for your character and express in conversation to determine how the world reacts to you.

“It’s about telling story via what happens, not cutscenes or other features,” Mateusz says. “To do that we need to create a totally new unique dialogue system – we’re doing that right now, it should be awesome.”

Augments, of course, are a huge part of the Cyberpunk world. They are the focal point of the teaser trailer, which shows a squad of specialised police facing off against a woman who has gone too rather far with her biomechanical self-improvement regime. But Cyberpunk 2077 will not be about conflict between the augmented and the police; that Deus Ex: Human Revolution-style societal tension over the morality and ethics of augmentation is not at the centre of the story.

“The psycho squad is just one of many cool elements in this world," Sebastian explains. “We had several ideas for this short teaser and had to focus on one of them. Augmentations and cyberware is a big subject in the world, and that’s why it’s in the teaser. But it won’t be a game about police hunting cyber-psychos. That’s a sub-plot… The story will be low-level. We are not going to save the world, or even save a city. We are focused on the main character and his problems, or her problems.”

Cyberpunk hasn’t been as easy to adapt as a video game as you might think. Pen and paper mechanics have been the foundation of many digital RPGs over the years, but they do not translate well into the kind of game that CDP is trying to make. “The game mechanics are totally different on paper, they don’t work in video games because they would be super boring,” Mateusz says.

“The main problem is that the original system is based on dice rolls. When you think about Cyberpunk you think about shooting, action, a lot of explosions. But that doesn’t fit dice rolls in a video game. We want to make it more action-like – there will be a system that lets you use active skills actually in the gameplay in a shooting sequence or something like that, rather than just passive skills like in the books.”

The fiction, too, needed to be adapted. When Cyberpunk 2020 was originally written, the year 2020 was a long way off, but things have advanced far enough in the intervening time to make some of its futuristic technology feel a little ridiculous. “The original Cyberpunk 2020 is a kind of retro game – you cannot believe in this world today because a lot of things in our world are already higher-tech,” agrees Mateusz. “So we needed to change this to make it more real for modern people.

“But also it’s important to still keep the mood and the original feel of Cyberpunk – we don’t want to just create a science-fiction game. It’s easy to do that. We still want to balance it with those main features and the mood from the Cyberpunk original. This is a huge task, I think.”

It all comes back to ensuring that Cyberpunk 2077 doesn’t do what other games do: fall back on just a term and an aesthetic when cyberpunk as an idea is about so much more. Sebastian hopes that Cyberpunk 2077 will be a true realisation of that idea – not just the tropes, not just the futuristic feel, but the whole philosophy, with all its ambiguity, corruption and individualism.

“First of all it will be an RPG, so that means you create the story. In Syndicate and other shooters you can do no such thing,” says Sebastian. “The other thing is that you will have the chance to create your character’s personality. This is very, very important. The style and mood and atmosphere of this world, what you do at the bar, what do you drink, how you react with other people, what dialogue you choose –all these things let us keep the Cyberpunk atmosphere all the time.”

“There are lots of cyber games around, but there’s not a lot of punk in those games,” adds Mateusz. “We want to put more punk into ours. We do not want to make a dark and hopeless world. We are not doing Blade Runner. It will be full of rock and roll.”

“It’s more like a Tarantino approach,” Sebastian concludes.

CD Projekt is taking its time with Cyberpunk 2077. It almost certainly won't be out before 2015 on PC - nothing's confirmed, but it seems likely given The Witcher 3's simultaneous release that it will appear on the next-gen consoles too. The team is still playing around and experimenting with ideas, throwing things like multiplayer and prototyping. But the vision is firmly in place, and you get the impression that it has been since before CDP even started work on this project. If I were Mike Pondsmith, I'd have confidence in them too.

Given that it's five years old, the information may no longer be accurate. However, that's what they said there intentions were way back then.

 

[Potestaquisitor]

What are your guys thoughts on how this is gonna play out on consoles. I mean romours of ps5 are abounding, though I don't think we will see this console till 2020. Sony's sales on current ps4 have slowed down this past year (from 19 mil to 16 mil or something) but I'm pretty sure cyberpunk might be backwards compatible to regular ps4 consoles when it releases. Pretty much I think they may play it out like Xbox titles of recent.

We all know the controversy like we had with tw3 graphics being downgraded from what it originally looked like to make it compatible for the consoles, but I somehow personally feel that I would prefer that it is primarily getting developed for next gen consoles, namely ps5 and Xbox x2*. The thing is Sony has also at 90 mil ps4 consoles (yes and Ik that not 90 mil people play will play it, but tw3 has sold like what 16mil copies, 70% sales on console alone, so is it fair to say cyberpunk sales will hit those figures if not abit more? (I dunno the figures for the pro) So are they gonna develop the game with a dumbed down version to take advantage of that huge current console "old current console" demographic? What I'm trying to figure out where they gonna prominently aim this game (with regards to Sony in general) cause, I can't see like a huge portion of ps4 players that have recently purchased current gen consoles, drop their current consoles just to play it exclusively on the next gen machines. Kinda worries me with regards to what type of graphics quality we will get. Sure if they follow the route God of war did I'm ok with that, but I would love it to be mainly developed for ps5, then made backwards compatible to current ps4 and not made primarily for current gen then upscaled for next gen.

I kinda think we gonna see this game in 2020 and I think it may be one of the big launch 3rd party titles for the ps5. What you other console peasants think?