Yupp, looks the same except the UI and the character creation looks a bit different. Also surprised it looks so close to what we finally got!
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Drastic changes over the course of long development and features being reworked or removed is nothing new.
Want more extreme example than Cyberpunk? Take a look at Bioshock Infinite:
TW1 had unterwater city removed from ch.4.
TW2 had the entire chapter removed from the game.
TW3 had the subplot related to plague in Velen removed (including Iorveth). Monsters were also supposed to have multiple hitboxes and weak points. It was removed.
Want a game with no cut content? Have fun playing Star Citizen.
Want more extreme example than Cyberpunk? Take a look at Bioshock Infinite:
TW1 had unterwater city removed from ch.4.
TW2 had the entire chapter removed from the game.
TW3 had the subplot related to plague in Velen removed (including Iorveth). Monsters were also supposed to have multiple hitboxes and weak points. It was removed.
Want a game with no cut content? Have fun playing Star Citizen.
Well, sorry, maybe you should open your eyes. I'm not a groupie of Jason Schreier but as far I remember he made articles about Blizzard changing into a Activison-Blizzard Zombie, how 800 employees get thrown out a few months later. He wrote the first article about the crunch-situation at CDPR (Witcher 3), as far I remember, and Rockstar (RDR2). So it is not surprising that
was possible, I think the people in the studios trust him. If I would work at a studio and had something to criticize I would write him a mail, too.
And a little search: ANTHEM for you as example.
Another topic:
I want to say Thank you and make a compliment to the mods here and whoever is responsible for the guidelines of public comments. It is not common, that "we" can speak so open about the problems a few of us have with the game in its current state. Respect that you can take it and let us criticize.
Thx. I appreciate that.
actually, no. Game devs still somtimes use vertical slices for demo purposes when they show games to journalists. Vertical slices are not just used in order to convince inverstors. The things is that devs presenting these slices as demos usually mention to journalists upfront that they are actually showing a vertical slice and not a part of the final game. During the CDPR demos at E3 and gamescom it was never mentioned that the thing they were showing was not actually part of the game afaik.
no, its a disclaimer because the development process can be drastically different or not different at all. 2 years before you release a game, you are not at the feature complete state, where only bug fixing is happening. Think about how much games change in two years even after release. What they showed in the 2018 demo is almost exactly whats in the game.
this is not significantly different than whats in game.
the vertical slice was in 2013, not 2018, and it was just stylized cutscene with no gameplay the 2018 demo is almost verbatim whats in game with a different UI
and they did mention the 2013 trailer was a vertical slice.
as I have posted repeatedly the 2018 demo is extremely accurate to whats in game.
the major change is only no random encounters. quickhacking is always open instead of requiring monowire, and walljump removed from mantis blades, but they added double jump and air evasion. Thats it, in 43 minutes thats the only major differences, which is surprising considering it was two years ago
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Outside of the article and demos.
How can anyone defend the state of the game?
How can anyone defend the state of the game?
Just going to throw it here, their creative director left the studio not far from the gameplay release. Cannot be something far fetch.
Then show me the ill practice i've defended - as you quote me.
Seeing how you quote "industry standards", which i've attached to vertical slices - i see no problem with them. They should indicate the vision the developers want to follow. They're great for a team itself and especially for people outside of it, to get an idea of what the end product should look and feel like.
And the failure here wasn't that CDPRs management did such a slice, but rather that they seemingly didn't plan enough time for all of that - so Schreier mentions a non-issue and tries to say that was the issue. Putting emphasis on the slice not being finished, instead of missing development time. Implying the will of the people (including developers, which is why he goes 'Dev's thought it a waste of time') involved with that slice to willfully lie instead of recognizing that the people likely wanted to deliver that but miscalculated how long it all would take.
And i've explained that CDPRs management failed in how long they calculated everything would take. And my initial short summary of what the article actually includes is the Dictate of Marketing over the product - and yes they overall Marketing has quite certainly dozens of actually bad things done - just not the non-problems Schreiers mentions.
What I do not understand is that so many people have this sort of thing being spoonfed and not even stop for a second to think it may be overexaggerated at best, full of shit at worst. We live in a time where media from 'journalists' are as trustworthy as a bag of hot doorknobs as far as truth is concerned.
Best is to not watch this shit, and just wait and see what CDPR will do.
also... what's wrong with people that they honestly believe everything is gonna be fixed in a mere few months?
I don't think anyone expects absolutely everything fixed in a few months.
There is the fact that a LOT of the gameplay bugs are just link errors in the databases, with calculations not getting the right values because of it. When that happens a crap-ton of other bugs appear that can make a game seem extremely buggy, but when the links are fixed a whole plethora of issues are resolved at the same time.
The storyline elements and such that people complain about wont change imo. That is just unrealistic. However I can see some additional elements added in to improve the storytelling. But no re-writing or refactoring.
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There are little things missing that makes a huge diffence in the whole game. As far I remember the wallclimbing is in this video and the flathead as a kind of "pet". Not in the game.
A ONS? sneaking out the appartment. The romance options in the current game are... thin. Visitors in Vs apartment. Not in the game (just as bug).
NPC full day-night circle. In the game: Idle their route day and night.
Shooting as the driver out of the driving car. Not in the game.
Last but not least cutscenes. I wouldn't have bought the game if I knew that it will beginning to almost end (40 sek. max). FPS. Not in the game.
etc.pp.
I think this points are significantly. But at least Jackie didn't walk trough the wardrobe shoving a ton of paper in the air. That feature I (and a few others) had.
It depends on what you think is going to be "fixed." What I want fixed is console bugs so the game is playable. I like the game just fine otherwise.
Anything after MAKING THE GAME PLAYABLE is just gravy.
It might be the case regarding some features, but what are they gonna do about life paths, for example? They already hinted that "nah, not gonna happen, son".
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I already mentioned it before, but it feels a bit like a cruel joke. Visuals remained almost as good as in early promos, in some respects even better, but game systems were scaled waaaay down.
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