1.7 getting real close?

[BabaBooey88]

If you just wait a month or so, you're going to get information.

Their silence I agree with. It's better than making outlandish claims and falling incredibly short, but people's skepticism is more than understandable. I'm not betting either way really as CDPR did surprise me with the amount of effort they've put into improvements and additions when I thought they would drop the whole thing after a year, but they had to royally botch the game in order for that stuff to even happen so...

Likewise every update from Momot has been a bit of a wet blanket - No rail system, no underground, no space casino, no edgerunner cameos... that's why I suggested people start wild rumors on reddit because we get more info forcing them to clamp down on speculation.

Man... nearly 7 years of development and no rail system.

 

[Andrew_Waples]

So, forget PL for a second. So, now do we think 1.7 is close? I get the feeling that with their investor update next month, it could come out by then or during Summer Game fest? Also, will you do another playthrough?

 

[LadyMiseryAli]

I think it's pretty close now. Mid-May release hopefully...or ass-end of May? Or maybe around Gamesfest.

And as far as another playthrough, I'm gonna make another Streetkid tonight probably and go really really slow with it.

 

[pliskards]

To me it looks exactly as CP2077 pre release. They let only selected few of the so-called content creators play the game months earlier. They all went extatic praising the game like the coming of the next Messiah, and then post launch they all took a dump on the game itself.

They said the community will have a chance to play the game before release. That isn't just content creators - at least from what we have heard.

To me it's pretty clear there are problems in this engine that cannot be completely fixed, it's pretty much like a boat sinking and you desperately trying to seal a leak, as three more open at the same time. It's taking too long for everything, and their constant radio silence is not promising.

This is probably true, they are probably struggling from a technical standpoint given that Red Engine is problematic. But that can be the case and the game can still be mostly bug free and ready to go too - it could have just took longer. Which is to say... it has been in development for three years. The main game was only in development for 3-4 years. Given that the base of the game is already in place, more patched up now and such - the odds the expansion releases in a much better state should (in theory) be much higher.

If you just wait a month or so, you're going to get information.

Agreed. They are not being 'radio silent'. They are just waiting. This isn't like the base game in that they are being very cautious with what they reveal and say.

So, forget PL for a second. So, now do we think 1.7 is close? I get the feeling that with their investor update next month, it could come out by then or during Summer Game fest? Also, will you do another playthrough?

My guess is still that we see 1.7 around that investor update or afterward right around/during Summer Game Fest. So the patch drops in late May/June so that they can get it out there, have people play around with it and knock out any major bugs. Then July 4th they drop Phantom Liberty. Going to stick with that prediction even though I could totally see a holiday season release for the game.

 

[strangerr3]

If 1.7 will introduce new gameplay elements, then I think we will see it close to release date of PL to boost people motivation for buying a product. 1.7 right now will not change much - everybody except hardcore fans is waiting for new expansion and release date is not known.

 

[BabaBooey88]

If 1.7 will introduce new gameplay elements, then I think we will see it close to release date of PL to boost people motivation for buying a product. 1.7 right now will not change much - everybody except hardcore fans is waiting for new expansion and release date is not known.

They never said 1.7 is the patch, but they haven't corrected that wide regarded assumption when they've gone out of their way to dispel every other rumor that won't pan out. I think it's safe to assume that the next patch is "the big one".


These toggles have been there at least since 1.6, but nothing happens. I would also assume they've been working on these since well before 1.6, otherwise they wouldn't have been present at all if they were something they decided to gin up just because Edgerunners was a hit.

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So, forget PL for a second. So, now do we think 1.7 is close? I get the feeling that with their investor update next month, it could come out by then or during Summer Game fest? Also, will you do another playthrough?

Closer than we were yesterday.

 

[Netrunner2go]

To me it looks exactly as CP2077 pre release. They let only selected few of the so-called content creators play the game months earlier. They all went extatic praising the game like the coming of the next Messiah, and then post launch they all took a dump on the game itself.

To me it's pretty clear there are problems in this engine that cannot be completely fixed, it's pretty much like a boat sinking and you desperately trying to seal a leak, as three more open at the same time. It's taking too long for everything, and their constant radio silence is not promising.

Well said. +1

 

[MrGuyton]

Am I safe to get my hype train set out of the cupboard yet?

 

[LadyMiseryAli]

Am I safe to get my hype train set out of the cupboard yet?

Hype trains are allowed to roll. Just look out for those trying to destroy the tracks. lol

 

[Bryan_CORP]

I’m hopeful we get this by early June. Now that they’re slowly working toward Phantom’s marketing push, it’ll also give the base game some more buzz.

(And .. Give them time between when it’s released and the EP to fix the inevitable bugs that’ll come with it.)

 

[Rascott]

In June they will surely show us the work developed in Cyberpunk 2077 and in the expansion as the end of the party at this stage of CDPR.

We only have to assess if the work has been at the level desired by the critical players. This is the last major punch that CDPR is going to make in this game. 2023 is the end for Cyberpunk 2077.

Nobody on this forum has said anything important for months (including me) because the radio has been completely turned off and we have only released personal opinions waiting for the official information.

We are all waiting for CDPR's proposal for the final version of the game, to put the finishing touch to this stage that is so problematic for the company.

I think the final revision will give concessions to the players and give us a game with more freedom, although Night City will remain a cardboard city that hopefully the modders can continue to develop.

Hopefully PL gives us a second exciting digital experience full of unique moments with a more complete and even more immersive experience than the base game.

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And please fix V's shadows once and for all.

 

[Andrew_Waples]

Is it unusual for devs to promote an expansion this much? I don't recall a lot of devs going hands on with their dlc's. Sure they'll show it off, but actually getting to play it early? That seems unusual, and not just one event either. The word was "invited" to other events, as well. It kinda feels like they're promoting a full game here, not just an expansion.

 

[strangerr3]

I think they still have to fight a bit with general public CP2077 opinion so expansion is somehow a key to establish that game as something very strong. Especially when its a last act as there wont be another expansion, nor any substancial patch in terms of big overhaul of mechanics. That it also why it takes more then expected as I`m sure they want to release it properly this time.

 

[LadyMiseryAli]

I think they still have to fight a bit with general public CP2077 opinion so expansion is somehow a key to establish that game as something very strong. Especially when its a last act as there wont be another expansion, nor any substancial patch in terms of big overhaul of mechanics. That it also why it takes more then expected as I`m sure they want to release it properly this time.

I think it is mainly this. I'm really hoping this expansion does something significant with the game and if they're really set on just one expansion, then whatever the second one was supposed to be hopefully gets put into the sequel....or maybe they'll surprise us with a second expansion, but that's very doubtful.

 

[Rascott]

Another option is also possible. Everything is my opinion, I will not go to Reddit to comment on it , I just want to share it with you so that you can tell me about my possible mistake or success.

This game should have already had its 2 expansions and be in the process of being shut down. Quality failures, errors, hacking, pandemic and even the war that at times seemed to threaten Poland has broken all the planning that was set in the past.

CDPR decides to sacrifice a 2nd expansion to give us only an expansion that has the biggest budget to date in CDPR and this can mean an expansion that has a duration equal to or greater than Blood and Wine....or not.

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt was released on May 19, 2015.

The first expansion for The Witcher 3 "Hearts of Stone" was released on October 13, 2015 (5 months later) with a duration of between 10 and 15 hours. This first expansion was already well underway when the base game was released in May.

The Witcher 3 "Blood and Wine" was released on May 31, 2016 with a duration between 20 and 30 hours (one of the largest expansions to date). It was released a year after the base game.

Cyberpunk 2077 with all its internal and external problems has not received any expansion after 2 and a half years. It is possible that initially it was decided that it would also have 2 expansions and therefore the first of them as of December 10, 2020 was already in advanced development to be delivered during 2021.

Months after December 10, 2020, everything turned dark for CDPR and all plans changed.

Part of the team works on repairs and improvements and the other part is dedicated to developing the only expansion and there are two possibilities:

Option 1: They scrapped all the work on the 1st expansion that they had already done or only partially scrapped it, keeping side missions, to start development of the expansion that was going to have the most importance in Cyberpunk 2077 and which would be the 2nd expansion scheduled for 2022.

Option 2: After the release of Cyberpunk 2077, the team in charge of the expansions has continued working on the 1st expansion, giving it more and more extensive content.

The plans for Cyberpunk 2077 could be similar in quality of content and dates as for The Witcher 3, the problems that the development has suffered can make Phantom Liberty an innovative product never seen by CDPR and that is the result of internal problems and external suffered.

It can be a big expansion the size of Blood and Wine or even something bigger but in hours of play Cyberpunk 2077 + PL will not surpass The Witcher 3 with its 2 expansions in any case.

Will they have saved work from the expansion that already existed as of December 10, 2020? Or, will all the PL content have been developed during these last 2 years?

The biggest expansion to date? Or the size of Blood and Wine?

Or even less because of the problems of developing on Red Engine?

If you have more information I would like to know what you think of all this.

 

[Andrew_Waples]

Another possibility is also possible. Everything is my opinion, I will not go to Reddit to comment on it , I just want to share it with you so that you can tell me about my possible mistake or success.

This game should have already had its 2 expansions and be in the process of being shut down. Quality failures, errors, hacking, pandemic and even the war that at times seemed to threaten Poland has broken all the planning that was set in the past.

CDPR decides to sacrifice a 2nd expansion to give us only an expansion that has the biggest budget to date in CDPR and this can mean an expansion that has a duration equal to or greater than Blood and Wine....or not.

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt was released on May 19, 2015.

The first expansion for The Witcher 3 "Hearts of Stone" was released on October 13, 2015 (5 months later) with a duration of between 10 and 15 hours. This first expansion was already well underway when the base game was released in May.

The Witcher 3 "Blood and Wine" was released on May 31, 2016 with a duration between 20 and 30 hours (one of the largest expansions to date). It was released a year after the base game.

Cyberpunk 2077 with all its internal and external problems has not received any expansion after 2 and a half years. It is possible that initially it was decided that it would also have 2 expansions and therefore the first of them as of December 10, 2020 was already in advanced development to be delivered during 2021.

Months after December 10, 2020, everything turned dark for CDPR and all plans changed.

Part of the team works on repairs and improvements and the other part is dedicated to developing the only expansion and there are two possibilities:

Option 1: They scrapped all the work on the 1st expansion that they had already done or only partially scrapped it, keeping side missions, to start development of the expansion that was going to have the most importance in Cyberpunk 2077 and which would be the 2nd expansion scheduled for 2022.

Option 2: After the release of Cyberpunk 2077, the team in charge of the expansions has continued working on the 1st expansion, giving it more and more extensive content.

The plans for Cyberpunk 2077 could be similar in quality of content and dates as for The Witcher 3, the problems that the development has suffered can make Phantom Liberty an innovative product never seen by CDPR and that is the result of internal problems and external suffered.

It can be a big expansion the size of Blood and Wine or even something bigger but in hours of play Cyberpunk 2077 + PL will not surpass The Witcher 3 with its 2 expansions in any case.

Will they have saved work from the expansion that already existed as of December 10, 2020? Or, will all the PL content have been developed during these last 2 years?

The biggest expansion to date? Or the size of Blood and Wine?

Or even less because of the problems of developing on Red Engine?

If you have more information I would like to know what you think of all this.

Personally? I think it was clear that we were supposed to get two expansions. Why? The game practically tell us this. When you start up a new game it says do you want to send data to CDPR that'll help with future content and expansionS? Now, why they never bothered to change it to expansion? Who knows. Maybe PL was supposed to be two, but merged them?

 

[Rascott]

Personally? I think it was clear that we were supposed to get two expansions. Why? The game practically tell us this. When you start up a new game it says do you want to send data to CDPR that'll help with future content and expansionS? Now, why they never bothered to change it to expansion? Who knows. Maybe PL was supposed to be two, but merged them?

Good appreciation. It is also possible, as you say, that PL was divided into 2 parts, in 2 expansions and they decided to merge it into a single expansion and that therefore it has been in development since before the launch of the base game.

The phrase: send data to CDPR that will help you with future content and expansions I guess it will be a standard phrase that they have not bothered to correct.

 

[LeKill3rFou]

Personally? I think it was clear that we were supposed to get two expansions.

If I remember, CDPR announced that we could expect the same as for The Witcher 3. Meaning several little free DLCs and two expansions. But happened what happened and two expansions become one expansion (They cancelled/scrapped one expansion to keep the second one or they merged both, who know and I guess we'll never know... It does not longer matter now anyway^^).

 

[BabaBooey88]

If I remember, CDPR announced that we could expect the same as for The Witcher 3. Meaning several little free DLCs and two expansions. But happened what happened and two expansions become one expansion (They cancelled/scrapped one expansion to keep the second one or they merged both, who know and I guess we'll never know... It does not longer matter now anyway^^).

Yeah. It was pretty deflating when they announced it wouldn't be out until this year, but we're almost there... maybe.

I'm surprised that at this point there still won't be a rail system. I know not long before released they announced it won't be in the game and they've iterated twice they don't intend to make one... but damn. 7 Years or so years and no metro. I hope any other new systems they introduce really really shine.

I hope they don't include those odd interludes like in Hearts of Stone. The art was wonderful, but it really broke the immersion with that peculiar thriller music and hard narration in the middle of a quest. Totally out of place. I thought the game had broken first time it happened.

 

[pliskards]

If I remember, CDPR announced that we could expect the same as for The Witcher 3. Meaning several little free DLCs and two expansions. But happened what happened and two expansions become one expansion (They cancelled/scrapped one expansion to keep the second one or they merged both, who know and I guess we'll never know... It does not longer matter now anyway^^).

I believe the quote was AT LEAST as much as The Witcher 3. They were also going to announce at least two expansions right around the release of the game - if memory serves me correct.

All of that is to say that I highly doubt they keep their promise on that one. That would require about 25 hours of main story (B&W+HOS) and around 20 hours of side content. Despite how long the expansion has been in production that would be around the size of the main game for Cyberpunk 2077.

But who knows, maybe they surprise us and it is absolutely massive. I am personally anticipating something around the size of Blood and Wine. A new area, around a fifteen hour main story and around fifteen hours of side content with some new systems, skills, etc.