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Snowflakez;n10230922 said:
Yes and also its funny to me that two days after I made that post, about LegacykillaHD videos are full of mis information. Today he had made a video admitting he never received factual info from the rumored Sony source and Sony's cyberpunk tech demo bullsh*t, as it was his assumption two days after he claimed this info was creditable.
As I predicted, people would start treating this dev kit situation now as if it might be for the ps5 when they have no idea.
So now the story is a Sony employee went out of their way to contact him, and this source is telling him that CDPR has sent Sony a tech demo but for undiscussed info as to which Sony console it was actually for.
As it stands. "Bullsh*t rumor is still Bullsh*t."
To quote myself I said...
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BeastModeIron;n10240252 said:
HAH! Nice!! You called it. Yeah, I say everyone should just stay away from the faketubers for a while. Maybe after the game comes out and they start pumping out their "TOP 101010 THINGS U MAYBE POSSIBLY MISSED IN 2077!!!11" videos they'll be semi worth watching again.
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Snowflakez;n10240292 said:
Yeah you already know that's on their list of videos to pump out. At this point, its not just mis information or unclarified details. Its just blatant lies to capitalize on news buzz. Its a shame the majority of their viewers actually believe this crap, but generally most aren't keeping up on the actually news, even the little bit we've had.
Anyway... Back to keepin it real.
I feel like there's two sides to this coin: the rumors we hear from youtubers are to be taken with a big grain of salt. There maybe some truth to them and I personally give some of them credit but at the same time don't base my hype on them. In fact, the rumors seem to be the ones that point at a later release and tone down any excess hype.
On the other hand, there seems to be a trend among the fans to bash any youtubers commenting the game - especially if they voice to having some inside sources.
Personally, I think youtubers are free to do whatever they like as they aren't journalists or a source that is to be trusted blindly. What I dislike is some game media picking up on those claims and making news out of them without any journalistic investigation of their own. That's a worse thing in my books than some youtuber coming up with fake stuff.
On the other hand, there seems to be a trend among the fans to bash any youtubers commenting the game - especially if they voice to having some inside sources.
Personally, I think youtubers are free to do whatever they like as they aren't journalists or a source that is to be trusted blindly. What I dislike is some game media picking up on those claims and making news out of them without any journalistic investigation of their own. That's a worse thing in my books than some youtuber coming up with fake stuff.
Did you all know that CDPR hired an actual concept car designer to work for them?
https://www.behance.net/PaulBreshke
https://www.behance.net/PaulBreshke
Meccanical;n10248452 said:
CDPR isn't messing around are they. Seeing concept cars of the future, how cool would that be. These supercars are already hi tech, a 2077 Lamdo. Is this game even real? Come on CDPR quick playin'.
I can only hope that whatever vehicles are in 2077 that they have fully detailed interiors.
Nice find
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BeastModeIron;n10248482 said:
I just hope we can actually use the vehicles.
Snowflakez;n10248602 said:
Yeah, a massive open world city and CDPR skimps on the driving vehicles part, game failed.
BeastModeIron;n10248682 said:
Not even close.
CDPR doesn't make, nor are they lauded for making, driving games. Roach was amusing, but not the point of W3. There was no Roach in 1 or 2.
Cyberpunk settings in Neuromancer and When Gravity Fails and Matrix 1 ignore driving. Matrix 2 had driving though....
Blade Runner, driving is a cruise around the city, that's it. Other than the view, not a part of the story at all.
Deus Ex has no driving.
Plenty of cities are transit and walk oriented. Night City downtown isn't a whole lot of horizontal real estate. The action typically takes place on foot and in the Net.
Perhaps you've decided that driving is essential to open world games, but that certainly doesn't have to be the case.
Open world games lately are size and mobility heavy and story and depth-light. I'd prefer that ratio to reverse.
Sardukhar;n10249092 said:
Nor are they praised for making shooting games but I'd expect guns to play into the gameplay as well.
CDPR decided to greatly expand the world from W1/W2 going into Witcher 3 and they obviously felt they needed to include various methods of faster travel as they should in a world that big, and Roach wasn't needed in the previous games, as they were much smaller in scale. Without Roach, W3 would have not been the same experience everyone enjoyed so much in a world that big, So no while not the point of W3, I think Roach was a needed addition regardless of its lack of complexity within the world, if for its pacing alone.
Cyberpunk doesn't need to revolve its world around vehicles, or be compared to the racing genre just for the sake of the game utilizing their convenience or existence in the world. With that in mind, I still believe on a gameplay level that if Night City is such a massive open world that vehicles can benefit the player as well as add to the worlds overall atmosphere, then I personally see no issue with it. As well as the various methods of travel in more dense and compact city environments where vehicles might not be much use.
Does the game need it, well only time will tell, and it ultimately depends on how the world is designed and also personal preference. For me, yes its something I think fits right into the world of Cyberpunk and I'd say CDPR would agree.
I actually prefer the world isn't so massive that vehicles are needed everywhere, it then would only take away from the density of the environment I'd much rather see. I can hope for balance with enough scale with vehicles, but the density of the city urban areas as well.
For me, the "punk" aspect of Cyberpunk is where the genre distinguishes itself from the likes of Bladerunner's almost pure dystopian setting. While Cyberpunk is very dystopian, its the punk in it that pushes the other side of the genre that allows the world to feel alive rather then an all encompassing darkness, and from the punk side you have this expression of style over substance and freedom from those within it and that's Cyberpunk for me, and if driving sweet vehicles is part of that, while not required for the overall genre, it is very welcome.
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BeastModeIron;n10249352 said:
Yep, pretty much this.
No game "needs" to have driving or vehicles unless it's gameplay relies on it. As in, it's not 100% essential to the game's success. But Roach sure as hell made TW3 much less frustrating, without taking away from the atmosphere or theme of the game. Absolutely no reason whatsoever 2077 shouldn't do the same.
Personally, I think there's about a 90% chance player-controlled vehicles are in. It's an opportunity CDPR probably won't want to miss. Plus, they were actually in the PnP, so yay for that.
Question is, in what capacity. I'd expect a regular player-owned vehicle (And not the ability to randomly jack cars on the street a la GTA), but what form will it take?
Can you swap for better/different vehicles?
What if you want a bike, not a car?
What if you want an aerodyne later in the game, instead of a bike?
These are questions I really want answers to. Hopefully we get a few when the gameplay videos start rolling out.
If you couldn't drive vehicles I doubt this job ad would exist.
http://en.cdprojektred.com/jobs/vehicle-gameplay-programmer/
http://en.cdprojektred.com/jobs/vehicle-gameplay-programmer/
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