[size=12pt]Sorry about the spacing issues, I didnt realize at the time how bad it was.
Whoa Freddy, I think you missed my point in a couple spots, because in most cases I'm actually agreeing with you - sometimes I forget that tone doesnt come across well on the boards.
Frustrated? Hateful? That really wasnt what I had in mind at all really, although I will admit sometimes to being frustrated by fanboyism and sexism in the videogame industry. Because, to my mind, it really should be about the games themselves, not about whether the 360 is better than the PS3 or whatever, nor should a persons ..ah...'personal plumbing' make a differnce in what games you enjoy, or even if you should play them at all. Although I will admit, sometimes people's misconception about female gamers can make some damn funny stories...But anyway, 30 years of gaming is where I get my OPINION from. My experience of gaming as a woman over 30 years of time does NOT mean I have all the answers. Experience doesnt = wisdom, I'll be the first to admit.
But, its the basis that I use to form my opinions rather than working in a gamestop or in the industry. Thats the entire point of that statement: to explain where my ideas have come from and what they're based on - my history and that I am not new to gaming. Btw, nor do I claim to be a 'hardcore' gamer. People's definition of 'hardcore' varies from person to person, and it doesnt matter whether that includes me or not. I am 'a gamer' - add whatever adjectives to that you like. Inferior? Once upon a time, back when was still in public school and I really was afraid I was the only female gamer in the world. More than anything, I don't want other women to feel the way I did which is probably why I'm so outspoken about it now.Pc=Adults, consoles = kids: that is a common attitude among some people, including non-gamers (those that dont believe all videogames are played by kids anyway). I wasn't directly quoting anyone here, however this sort of mentality was alluded to in the original thread that this topic came from: should the Witcher get a console port? One of the reasons given for 'no' was that ratings/censorship on the consoles would be more likely to be harsher (implying that the ratings are more strict there on consoles - implying that its more of a child thing again. Keep in mind I personally DONT agree with this line of thought, but it does seem to be a common perception). However, I find it funny that you added "
It isnt about the platforms on which the games are played it's about the games themself!(p.s. here we do not talk about the Wii,because that console is for kiddies,and we are not talking about older consoles either!we are talking about the PS3/PS2 and the Xbox 360/Xbox)" to this. Wii is just for kiddies? I really must disagree: I think I've established I'm far too old to be a 'kiddie' yet I enjoy quite a few games on the Wii. And WHY on earth would you exclude the older consoles? Some of the best games ever created are 'old'. And when you say 'older consoles' does that mean youre tossing out platforms like the Commodore, the Apple 2, the Sinclair? Or just the NES/Atari/SNES/Genesis type stuff? If it really is just all about the games, why exclude anything? (which is the basis for my whole arguement - there are good games on EVERY system, EVERY platform, so why limit yourself?)Also, while granted I was reading and skimming pretty fast on the original topic, I dont recall it ever being mentioned that only 'modern' platforms were to be considered. If it had, I doubt I would have posted because like I said - why limit yourself with something like videogames? Might as well make the arguement that only music from 2000-2005 (or some other random small block of time) is worth listening to or talking about.And yes, your comment about "Some games as you've stated are meant to be played on PC because of the unique enviroment that a PC can offer,while other games are meant for consoles because of its unique experience!" - yes, I agreed with you there too - remember when I said that I could not imagine Warcraft or Hellgate on a console, etc? Thats where I was agreeing with you
Those 'professionals' you mentioned....who are they? You think that perhaps they are people with PhDs in something like stats perhaps? While that would make sense, every time I see a report on 'who is playing games' and 'who is playing WHICH games' - I laugh. Because usually those things are pretty far off. Professionals? Maybe some are....but do you think the people who reported that Mass Effect was a sex game were experts of any sort? If youve even spent an hour with the game, you already know the answer to that. I use that because its the most recent example of butchered reporting that comes to mind. There are people who firmly believe that only teenage boys play games (and as such there should be NO M rated games like Witcher because only 14 year olds will play it), yet here we all are, grown men and women. Hence the reference to needing a drug test - that wasnt entirely serious, but when people are that far off, you have to wonder why. Well, *I* have to wonder anyway. Who am I to question? Well, I'm a gamer who knows other gamers who know other gamers who know other gamers.....so when those professionals say 'women dont play games' or even 'most women dont play games' and I know 30 personally who do (friends, coworkers, etc - not 30 women I met through 'gaming gals' or some such thing - I'm talking CASUAL connections here), and I'm aware that they each know more women who do....well, it at least makes me wonder where these stats come from. LOL and once again I catch us in agreement
Good games are good games, regardless of platform.
And as for Oblivion being Harry Potter compared to LotR, well, to continue the comparison - I enjoyed Harry Potter for what it was. Did I enjoy LotR more? Oh yes.
But does that make Harry Potter bad? Not at all, IMO. I enjoyed it for what it was, not for what it wasn't.
Oblivion may not be the greatest game ever created, but I've spent many a happy hour on it. Even if it ISNT another Ultima, or Gothic, or Arx Fatalis I still enjoyed it, and isnt that the whole idea?Btw, the elitist jerk comment was not serious either, it was more placed there to show that there was no harm in an console 'after port' of the Witcher, should the devs choose to do it.psI'm jealous - I need to rebuild another PC with a floppy drive in...but they are getting harder and harder to find in good working order.
I've got an older PC in the spare bedroom that I'm hoping will soon be able to play some of the good ol Sierra/lucasarts/infocom stuff without so many hitches....but in the meantime...I'm jealous..
