kofeiiniturpa;n9265151 said:I like them more mechanical (than nano)... Like these guys:
The only good thing about Robocop 3.
Lisbeth_Salander;n9258411 said:Let's just discuss anything villain related. What kind of villain would you like to see in CP2077?
4meg;n9283531 said:What the game really needs for that true sense of verisimilitude are those supercilious, sanctimonious pricks that make our daily lives an unending misery. The guy who cuts you off on the road. The coworker that grasses you out to get ahead. The cashier that looks at you like a daft cow when you ask the simplest question. The list is endless.
Big villains are needed, but it's this sort human excrement that would be encountered most often.
Lisbeth_Salander;n9283661 said:Isn't the annoying villain type way more common in stories than the opposite?
Perhaps there should be a likable villain that almost makes us want to get close to. An attractive, charismatic, neutral villain with the ability to make you see things in his perspective, to the point where he doens't seem to be such a bad guy, while still being the bad guy. Imagine a villain so umpredictable that sometimes he helps the main character because he likes him/her.
Making a love-neutral relationship between the Villain and the Main Character is the way to go.
Calistarius;n9286421 said:There is something about Vaas which is just so damn compelling. When ever I see those scenes from the game with him, where he goes on one of his ranting monologs, he just pulls me compleatly in and make me listen. Another aspect of him, which is really cool to, is that Vaas sort of reflects what your character in the game could potentually become if he forgoes his "good side" and stark feeding his "bad side" instead. Because from what you find out about Vaas as you play is that he essentually started out as being sort of the islands hero and then through the manipulation of his sister (Vaas killed his first person because of her for example), and eventually being thrown out by her, etc, he goes down this really dark path that leads to him becoming who he is when we meet him in the game.
mcflurry928;n9345151 said:Vaas reminds me of The Joker a lot. They're both psychopaths who want to watch the world burn. I didn't know why The Joker from The Dark Knight was so compelling until I saw this video.
CDPR can have petty villians but we also need compelling antagonists to look forward to. There's so much potential and I hope CDPR doesn't overlook this. Because I believe this is the backbone of compelling storyline.
RLKing1969;n9289081 said:Ok, I'm a long time C.P 2020 player/GM and if experience has taught me anything it is simply this: " There simply is no such thing as a "villain" per se in Cyberpunk. Everything is sort of like it is in "real life": Varying "shades of grey. The worst scum is capable of "acts of kindness" and the most "saintly" can slip and fall. Even a Cyberpsycho might be justified in their own minds. To be real, a "villain" is anyone who opposes a character's goals.
Strange thing... I have never really liked the Joker as a character... in fact, I find him to actually be fairly boring and uninteresting... but then again, I actually find close to all DC comic characters to be boring... yes, even Batman. XD I still like the movies and all, and I really enjoyed Heath Ledgers verison of the Joker (but that was very much so due to Heath Ledger which was one of my favorit actors at the time, and not the character it's self)... but I still find all the DC characters to be boring, and have no interest what so ever in reading any DC comics due to that. The only DC character I have ever liked in comicbook form, was Lobo. XDmcflurry928;n9345151 said:Vaas reminds me of The Joker a lot. They're both psychopaths who want to watch the world burn. I didn't know why The Joker from The Dark Knight was so compelling until I saw this video.