They probably were like in tapestry when they were young and not foul.
But I'm pretty sure these bitches were responsible for the children gone missing because as we seen in the vid they were probably eating them.
And I'm not so sure if the spirit was evil. I have a feeling it was not.
@Aes Sídhe: So, is the tapestry just depicting their symbols, or how they actually originally looked like? Their IG real form doesn't look human, unless they are mutated.
It's a very good question. The gameplay showed we have other chat options not investigated, and there are hints around the area - The Orphanage - about the background story of these Ladies. CDPR have deliberately not exposed the whole theme to us, and now we have something, possibly quite central, to deliberate on.
My last post based on the screenshot of the Tapestry can now be corrected on a few details: the left Witch holds an ear, theres a sacrificial Cockerel in the basket, their legs may be rotting or it could be bloodstains. I have more analysis of the entire scene, but I'm pressed for time today.
It's the witcher. I'm pretty sure neither the witches nor the spirit were good or evil.
They probably both have their own agenda and humans suffer in both cases.
I'd like to help the tree spirit, but if I miss out on information on Ciri that's...
I don't know what consequences that can have.
It's the witcher. I'm pretty sure neither the witches nor the spirit were good or evil.
They probably both have their own agenda and humans suffer in both cases.
I'd like to help the tree spirit, but if I miss out on information on Ciri that's...
I don't know what consequences that can have.
That's the charm of the Witcher, you don't know, so you have to take some risks. That's one of the reasons I love the franchise, this grey area and wondering what happens next if I do this or that.
In this quest, I do feel like standing on the side of the tree spirit. Those witches/baba yagas are always up to no good. I'd really like to kick their teeth in.
Ok, I've been thinking about this a lot since last night, and its pure speculation, more about gameplay than the Witches, but if its correct it could be MASSIVELY spoiling, so be warned and please any responses on this specific issue keep them inside {spoiler}{/spoiler} square bracket tags, @EmperorZorn; you may be particularly interested in this:
The Tapestry shows a severed ear, a sacrificial rooster, and the ritual knife. We know the ear (and its blood) placed on the stone summons the Crones. Could there be a hint in this imagery that theres an option to sacrifice a rooster to summon them? Could this be what happens if you side with the Tree Heart to still get the info about Ciri? If so would that be an obvious narrative outcome? Or - and I suspect we would all love this to be true, because it would indicate real puzzles of a level so far unattained in gaming based purely on observation & interpretation of visual / auditory clues throughout the game - does Geralt have to work this out himself?
Pure speculation I know, but the possibility excites me
During the presentation Nikolas mentioned to be perceptive about our surroundings,
because they are hints about what is going on hidden in the environment.
Maybe it's a coincidence, but this was also mentioned when entering the witches hut.
It's the witcher. I'm pretty sure neither the witches nor the spirit were good or evil.
They probably both have their own agenda and humans suffer in both cases.
I'd like to help the tree spirit, but if I miss out on information on Ciri that's...
I don't know what consequences that can have.
I am not sure about this. We don't know what would happen if we sided with the forest spirit which idea is seems better for me from the start. I think it will causes a totally different questline and probably we will see some consequences at the village as well. If you watch the video, the curse is seems to be there after the tree spirit was killed.
It's the witcher. I'm pretty sure neither the witches nor the spirit were good or evil.
They probably both have their own agenda and humans suffer in both cases.
I'd like to help the tree spirit, but if I miss out on information on Ciri that's...
I don't know what consequences that can have.
I'm sure it's not always right, but in games where there are these sort of grey area decision to make, I tend to think the side who is more staunch in their pleas for the protagonist to just leave them alone, like the tree spirit, is probably the less evil of the two choices, it would be a good way to throw the player off the trail by making the voice of the tree spirit so creepy like it was.
I'll also add that I really like the way CDPR didn't shy away from portraying the Baba Yagas in such a way, I feel like other developers may have thought they looked too 'silly' in their design to include, and instead might replace them for more classical type monsters, but their inclusion is awesome, and they really are monstrous to behold, I haven't seen something that really gives you that gross out impression like they do.
They look amazing,creepy and freakish in the demo.
What is this about these Hags eating the kids though ? If they are eating those orphanage kids, then its tree spirit alliance for me. Though the village will be screwed.
Yeah, that's what I understood from it as well, that they ate the children. I mean, the one with the red mask has a bag with what looks like a child's arm sticking out of it and there's the one with small legs sticking out from under her skirt. That's pretty gruesome.... loved it!
I'm convinced you can kill them instead. And my guess is that the consequence of that will be the children surviving and the village the hags "protect" being attacked or something and people dying there as a result. Maybe even get less or no info about Ciri and have to pick up her trail somewhere else (I doubt this last consequence since Gran can probably tell you about Ciri as well).
This is gonna seem very weird for some of you , but I kinda wish the big one would have uncovered breasts, just like in the artwork. I don't appreciate straying (if only a little) from the original concept just for the sake of ... something. I just hope the sex in this game won't be also through clothes, the Sword of Destiny trailer had a scene with Triss moaning with pleasure with full clothes on.
I hope some brave and mentally strong modders will fix it
Ok, I've been thinking about this a lot since last night, and its pure speculation, more about gameplay than the Witches, but if its correct it could be MASSIVELY spoiling, so be warned and please any responses on this specific issue keep them inside {spoiler}{/spoiler} square bracket tags, @EmperorZorn; you may be particularly interested in this:
The Tapestry shows a severed ear, a sacrificial rooster, and the ritual knife. We know the ear (and its blood) placed on the stone summons the Crones. Could there be a hint in this imagery that theres an option to sacrifice a rooster to summon them? Could this be what happens if you side with the Tree Heart to still get the info about Ciri? If so would that be an obvious narrative outcome? Or - and I suspect we would all love this to be true, because it would indicate real puzzles of a level so far unattained in gaming based purely on observation & interpretation of visual / auditory clues throughout the game - does Geralt have to work this out himself?
Pure speculation I know, but the possibility excites me
It would be nice, if that were the case, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
As for the rooster, I think it might be just design choice. You see the "main" witch is holding the rooster in a wicked basket in the tapestry and coincidentally her real representation uses such basket as a mask.
Also it might be just my wishful thinking, but I hope there's a proper backstory to them. We saw some interesting dialogue options explaining the situation, but they were skipped for the sake of advancing the quest. Maybe they were not always "bad", but they got cursed which imprisoned them in the painting (same as the tree spirit, that was "imprisoned").
They could do it on YT, the site only cares if you upload porn but if you tag things properly you can upload game sex scenes. Movie sex scenes are not allowed because well movies are not allowed.
True but they weren't so in your face like those in the cinematic. Not to mention that even in the cinematic one other other hags had her breasts hanging so low that they cloth that was supposed to cover them was too short.
Maybe it was a even an artistic design decision to cover up that particular hag. Does it really matter? I really doubt they'll shy away from the nudity in TW3 if it serves a point... and it some cases even if it doesn't I'm sure.
I'm sure it's not always right, but in games where there are these sort of grey area decision to make, I tend to think the side who is more staunch in their pleas for the protagonist to just leave them alone, like the tree spirit, is probably the less evil of the two choices, it would be a good way to throw the player off the trail by making the voice of the tree spirit so creepy like it was.
I'll also add that I really like the way CDPR didn't shy away from portraying the Baba Yagas in such a way, I feel like other developers may have thought they looked too 'silly' in their design to include, and instead might replace them for more classical type monsters, but their inclusion is awesome, and they really are monstrous to behold, I haven't seen something that really gives you that gross out impression like they do.
In such decisions I normally tend to just look at my personal goals. I know in the world of the Witcher nothing is what it seems and no decision is good or bad.
In the end - what do I gain from that? That is what I would ask. I would ask the tree spirit what he has to offer and then consider whos offer I trust more.
If he has something useful I'd probably side with the spirit.
I doubt they'll resort to dry humping in underwear *cough* ME3 *cough*
It's the witcher. I'm pretty sure neither the witches nor the spirit were good or evil.
They probably both have their own agenda and humans suffer in both cases.
I'd like to help the tree spirit, but if I miss out on information on Ciri that's...
I don't know what consequences that can have.
