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Journal entry blues...

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username_2075278

Senior user
#1
Sep 7, 2008
Journal entry blues...

OK, journal entries.When I add a new journal entry to a quest it completely overwrites the existing journal entry for the quest, instead of appending as I'd expected. So in the main quest in Birth and Virgins, you meet Hela, and then you go to meet her family. The order in which you meet the members of her family is indeterminate.So the first entry (in plot.dlg)
 
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Arkray_gog

Forum veteran
#2
Sep 8, 2008
I remember that problem with optiona quests, I think the only solution is by being creative in the description, adding as much info as possible 'ands' and 'ors'.In your case it could be 'I spoke to X and I could also speak to Y' just to remenber the player the option is there and develop the story in the journal with more character details....
 
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ailinon

Senior user
#3
Sep 8, 2008
I'm not sure I understand what you mean, Simon - do you mean journal entries for characters (Hela's bio), or quest phase entries? Also, you may be trying to be too specific - in most cases "I should talk to Hela's father and sister-in-law" should be enough, changing into "I spoke with Hela's family" later on.
 
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Gamewidow

Forum veteran
#4
Sep 8, 2008
he means quest phase entries mostly ... but some actions are contingent on character entries, so i don't think focussing on one particular type of entry over another is the issue here, the issue is how exactly does the darned thing work.In particular, different things can (and should) happen depending on who Geralt meets and in what order ... why would he ask about someone's wife if he had not heard or learned already that this particular person exists ... that sort of thing.
 
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nandusso

Senior user
#5
Sep 8, 2008
I'm a bit confused, can't you make a structure like:Start_quest-->phase-->optional_phase-->optional_phase-->optional_phase-->phase-->end_questThen for every meeting make a script that checks what journal entry you have and enables the right optional phase. For example if you have already met Nick and John it enables the opt.phase you have prepared with the appropriate text. When you have met everyone the quest continues with the first phase after the opt.phases.bye
 
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username_2075278

Senior user
#6
Sep 8, 2008
nandusso said:
I'm a bit confused, can't you make a structure like:Start_quest-->phase-->optional_phase-->optional_phase-->optional_phase-->phase-->end_questThen for every meeting make a script that checks what journal entry you have and enables the right optional phase. For example if you have already met Nick and John it enables the opt.phase you have prepared with the appropriate text. When you have met everyone the quest continues with the first phase after the opt.phases.bye
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I'm trying to use the D'Jinni quest mechanism rather than hack round it with scripts - but it may simply be too broken to use :(
 
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nandusso

Senior user
#7
Sep 8, 2008
mmm... ;D, so you can do a structure like this (for example with 3 npc to meet)Start_quest | Vphase | Vphase (xor-3_subquest)+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++xor-subquest1 xor-subquest2 xor-subquest3 | Vstart_quest the same the same | Vphase (xor-2_subquest)-------------------------------------------------xor-subquest1 xor-subquest2 | | V Vstart_quest start_quest | | V Vphase phase | | V Vend_quest end_quest------------------------------------------------- | Vend_quest+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | Vphase | VEnd_questbye
 
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