They should have upscale call girls as well as drug addled, malnourished women roaming the streets. The problem with TW2 is all the hookers were prime examples of sexuality and womanhood. They need to make it ugly in spots.
They should have upscale call girls as well as drug addled, malnourished women roaming the streets. The problem with TW2 is all the hookers were prime examples of sexuality and womanhood. They need to make it ugly in spots.
I'm starting to be very concerned that the guys at Projekt RED will actually listen to the asinine community, and ruin Cyberpunk for everyone. There seem to be a lot of people who haven't gotten the point of Cyberpunk at all.
None of this political correctness and prudishness has any place in Cyberpunk. All of this talk about social responsibility and equality and balance is exactly what will destroy the world, and make it yet another watered down kiddie game.
This is exactly why I said in that other thread over there that if the game hadn't been made in the 80's, and they tried to make it now, it wouldn't be Cyberpunk.
I just wish they'll ignore the community completely and make it an R-rated Cyberpunk game as it's supposed to be.
Also, that's how people dress in Cyberpunk. That's Style. That's Attitude. She's not dressed in a sexy attire because of. She's dressed in a sexy attire just because.
None of this political correctness and prudishness has any place in Cyberpunk. All of this talk about social responsibility and equality and balance is exactly what will destroy the world, and make it yet another watered down kiddie game.
This is exactly why I said in that other thread over there that if the game hadn't been made in the 80's, and they tried to make it now, it wouldn't be Cyberpunk.
I just wish they'll ignore the community completely and make it an R-rated Cyberpunk game as it's supposed to be.
Also, that's how people dress in Cyberpunk. That's Style. That's Attitude. She's not dressed in a sexy attire because of. She's dressed in a sexy attire just because.
This may have been mentioned before, so apologies if I'm repeating it - the sexualisation of this girl is nothing compared to the sexualisation of Zhora in Blade Runner, and in that film Zhora runs in fairly skimpy clothes with a transparent rain coat and no one really gives her a second glance.
As someone who knows little about Cyberpunk, what you're saying is that in this world, sex is meaningless and boring? The perfect setting for CD Project than, lol.
The point is not that sex is meaningless and boring, but more that style and look is more risqué and is more accepted as such, as an example, imagine being on a beach 100 years ago, wearing beach clothes from today.... It's a similar societal change in attitudes, nothing more.
No one's trying to take your toys away just because they're a bit critical of the teaser. I've seen practically no one on this thread suggesting a reduction of sexual content, or compromising one of the (smaller) themes of the p&p game and the genre as a whole. Wails of 'censorship' and 'sticks up asses' are disingenuous. No one wants the game to be anything other than the best that CDPR can make and the majority on this forum probably know quite well what that means.
That said, CDPR chose to release this teaser rather than the million others they could have made. And they released it into the real world of 2013, not the imaginary one of CP2077. It was very nice but definitely slanted towards the male audience. The key scene? A beautiful young woman (regardless of what some choose to imagine), in a submissive position, which is a callback to Alt's seductive pose on a bed from the original rulebooks. Aver made an interesting comment when he said he doesn't mind the sexualisation but didn't want to see guys in revealing outfits because it would just look ridiculous. Well, after well over 30 years of watching women specifically used this way in marketing, forgive me if I joined a huge number of others in a collective eye-roll.
I want sex and sexuality to be a present and contextually realistic part of the setting as much as you do. I'm certainly happy to look at lots of beautiful women if that's where it ends up. But I also want those women to have lives and purpose outside of pleasing [real world] men.
And yeah, some guys in thongs - why the hell not
I really lost focus here.
People what are we talking about here when TV series like Game of Thrones or Spartacus are more popular then ever, (and in them you can see a lot of naked bodies from both sexes practically every 5 minute - and not only in sex scenes) where commercials about women tampons or drugs for man erection are every 5 seconds on any channel?
Sex is everywhere, it sells anything.
Welcome to the sex revolution.
People what are we talking about here when TV series like Game of Thrones or Spartacus are more popular then ever, (and in them you can see a lot of naked bodies from both sexes practically every 5 minute - and not only in sex scenes) where commercials about women tampons or drugs for man erection are every 5 seconds on any channel?
Sex is everywhere, it sells anything.
Welcome to the sex revolution.
I wonder what's worse, putting a good looking female in a trailer or patronizing female gender under the cover of defending it from the comfortable backs of white horses of "progression" againts evil forces of CDPR's marketing.
And what's with this whole "submissive position". Why do some people want so badly to see it this way, huh? What would Freud say about it? I wonder...
And what's with this whole "submissive position". Why do some people want so badly to see it this way, huh? What would Freud say about it? I wonder...
Deflecting arguments is deflection.
If you disagree about the framing of the scene and the attitude of the characters in it that's fine. That's called critical thinking and it's a good thing. Still the attempts to turn the argument around to the critics having dirty minds or whatever that is, is the most hilarious tactic I've seen so far in this discussion.
Are you sure you're referencing Freud's clinical method accurately here? Have you read any of Freud's works on psychoanalysis?
If you disagree about the framing of the scene and the attitude of the characters in it that's fine. That's called critical thinking and it's a good thing. Still the attempts to turn the argument around to the critics having dirty minds or whatever that is, is the most hilarious tactic I've seen so far in this discussion.
Are you sure you're referencing Freud's clinical method accurately here? Have you read any of Freud's works on psychoanalysis?
So is there really that much feminist rage over the teaser? I must have missed it. To be fair, I don't think the requests in this thread fall under the femi-nazi category. I understand where people like KOP are coming from, but I disagree and feel the issue to be a slippery slope.
edit-Okay I just found the article...jesus christ. Now I'm mad. Maybe the guy's just trying to get attention.
edit-Okay I just found the article...jesus christ. Now I'm mad. Maybe the guy's just trying to get attention.
Why are u ?
The teaser was watched 1.8mln times so far on youtube only on the CyberPunkGame Channel, 31,605 people liked it 979 people did not. So it's being liked by 97% of people so far. Still there are people that will not like it for different reasons and some of them will write an article on the web.Obviously the article you mentioned was written by someone that does not have any clue about CP2020 nor Cyberpunk genre. He do not see any little details that we see in the teaser, in fact the only thing that he can see in the trailer is half naked women
Well maybe he have some problems like in the joke where doctor shows the patient all different paintings asking what he is seeing and the guy responds "naked women" all the time And this is cyberpunk world! U can choose how u look like, u can choose what gender u are, u can change it if you want. U can be homo, bi or hetero sexual and in fact any other sexual. U have braindance so lets say u are a woman and want to feel how it is to have a sex like a man get the braindance session in the body of a man making sex with a woman... Or u want to have penis stick from your hand again this is not a problem.
This is a world of decadence and freaks. But what trailer shows us? A woman that had her looks tuned up, but at the same time being deadly dangerous - maybe she was an assasin? and while doing her last mission after seducing her target she snapped because of putting to much augmentations? And started the massacre. And the scene we are seeying is likely only the end of it. Why she is not moving? Maybe the coprocessor stoped working or she was fried with microwaves before the psycho squad start the shooting.
The trailer is showing that in 2077 it does not matter what gender u are born and how u looked like before tuning up. Obviously there still will be a lot of beautiful (and beauty standards will be even more created by media and corporations than they are now) but artificial women on the streets and in media. And this is because that for most of men the look of the woman is very important and not necessary vice versa. More over the woman are doing makeups etc men do not and its for thousands years like this. And it will not change - so how the hell the trailer should be different from the world that have surrounded us since ever.