Panam Palmer Storyline/Sidequests DLC [Spoilers]

[Spectral_Warrior]

Exact.
Especially when you find the iliad shard in the Panam ending that say "if you stay, you die but find glory. If you leave, death cant reach us"

So actually if we wanna save ourselve, we must leave NC.
And i gladly leave it. I hate NC

All the stuff like that shard reinforce that feeling and incentive.
But the fact that Panam plans to put all Aldecaldos resources and contacts into play to solve V's condition and help get a cure is already narrative enough to go there.
At the very least to take that adventure head on and follow it through to whatever conclusion awaits at the end.
Either way, it will be resolved.

I should add, as I have mentioned elsewhere.
In the end this is a videogame. Let us play that content which narratively spans what is still a large arc

 

[EddiesforBaddies]

What lovers? My romance dump me in that ending, so I don't think that happy for me.

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Romance with Kerry and River are so bad compared to romance with Judy and Panam. If you don't want romance Panam you have to decline her advances like 4 times, but with Kerry there isn't any flirt lines at all. And all this cries for nomad DLC makes me sad, cause in that ending Kerry will dump you.

When does she make advances though?It's mostly you who is flirting in the beginning,

 

[DRaptor-1]

What lovers? My romance dump me in that ending, so I don't think that happy for me.

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Romance with Kerry and River are so bad compared to romance with Judy and Panam. If you don't want romance Panam you have to decline her advances like 4 times, but with Kerry there isn't any flirt lines at all. And all this cries for nomad DLC makes me sad, cause in that ending Kerry will dump you.

Well Panam and judy can be considered main characters. They are important for the story. Im not saying that River and Kerry are not important but were written to be secodary characters.
But this doesnt mean they have to be ignored.
I think CDPR should add stuff also to them.

But the point is that they are secondary characters, i think everyone can see that.
Im sorry for your feelings tho
Hopefully they will implement them too

 

[Harrison_Deckard]

So usually I'm not the kind of person to write in a forum, but for this occasion I had to create a profile. I'm not sure what it is about Panam that made her how she is. I never thought that a videogame character would make me feel like Panam did. The worst part is that I'm in a happy 5 year relationship and I almost felt like I'm cheating on my girlfriend while playing the Quests with Panam.

You know that feeling of emptiness you sometimes get when finishing a good book or a good series? I've been feeling this since the end of Queen of the Highway, especially since there aren't really any interactions left with her. I'm seriously considering starting a new playthrough just to replay these sidequests and I'm not even done with the main story on my first playthrough.

I hope this thread and the others like this one get more attention so that the devs see it and hopefully make a Panam DLC. Please devs, give us more Panam! And thank you for the amazing work you did with this game, it's honnestly in my top 3 games of all time (Panam might even put it on the first place tbh)

it is really strange (but also relieving) how similar all our experiences are. I also felt like cheating my girl, but couldn't stop to get some real feelings about Panam and got a true concern and interest about her path in life.

It's fascinating how this storylines are told and how well and appropriately the characters are animated - they brought this npc's really to life. Even if their storylines are way to short and especially in Panam's case (so far) with a unfitting and heartless stop, right when the relationship is established - I absolutely feel for her, I care about Judy and I miss Jackie!

Big Thanks and well done CDPR, so please, don't hear just the exaggerated social media outrage about bugs and shit - hear us screaming for more time with your ingame awoken souls - especially this so lovable nomad girl, who stole our heart.

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We should also remember Mike Pondsmith’s words about CP world: “Cyberpunk is not about savng world but rather saving yourself and people whom you love”.
I think Nomad ending is the brightest confirmation of his words. V realizes that NC is not the city to save or make better. The longer you stay in NC the worse person you become. So meeting with Panam, Judy and Aldecalco shows that V’s friends and lovers are the main part of his live and they are worthy to fight for them.

The game is so deep in philosophy and i really like this take Night City is like purgatory - you choose where to go from there!

 

[Tejron275]

Alright CDPR, I loved Cyberpunk, didn't really felt the bugs but this is not the case here. I finished the game 2 weeks ago and I really hope for Panam and V DLC happening in Arizona. I mean this is so obvious to do and yet there are rumours that the ending of the game is final, please deny them. Panam and V's storyline with the Aldecaldos is so amazing and I would like to see more of it in the future. Explaining why the DLC will take place in Arizona is very simple for every ending ( well apart from we know which ) and I'm begging you not to end V's storyline like that with only 6 months left to live. It's just brutal for those who loved the game. I hope you make the right decision

 

[Aloen]

So usually I'm not the kind of person to write in a forum, but for this occasion I had to create a profile. I'm not sure what it is about Panam that made her how she is. I never thought that a videogame character would make me feel like Panam did. The worst part is that I'm in a happy 5 year relationship and I almost felt like I'm cheating on my girlfriend while playing the Quests with Panam.

You know that feeling of emptiness you sometimes get when finishing a good book or a good series? I've been feeling this since the end of Queen of the Highway, especially since there aren't really any interactions left with her. I'm seriously considering starting a new playthrough just to replay these sidequests and I'm not even done with the main story on my first playthrough.

I hope this thread and the others like this one get more attention so that the devs see it and hopefully make a Panam DLC. Please devs, give us more Panam! And thank you for the amazing work you did with this game, it's honnestly in my top 3 games of all time (Panam might even put it on the first place tbh)

We're all there with you - the emptiness after Queen of the Highway is brutal after your interactions stop with Panam. It's all a rush and then you get dropped back into a world where no one cares about you and Panam only acknowledges you and her with a single line of dialogue that never changes. You get a text message of hope, but that's it, making the disappointment all the more complete. And I don't think it's any sort of cheating - my wife makes fun of me and my silly crush on a virtual character that'll she'll never understand.

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Big Thanks and well done CDPR, so please, don't hear just the exaggerated social media outrage about bugs and shit - hear us screaming for more time with your ingame awoken souls - especially this so lovable nomad girl, who stole our heart.

Hear hear!

 

[cergyn]

But the point is that they are secondary characters, i think everyone can see that.
Im sorry for your feelings tho
Hopefully they will implement them too

And here is problem. So they should get more attention in DLC not less to make them more story revelent. Also for those who is not interested in Panam DLCs that based on her is not really interesting.

 

[WildOrchid]

If I recall, in the other endings, Kerry and River stay with you whereas Panam (not sure, anyone can confirm it?) and Judy break up with you because if you become queen of the Afterlife, Judy breaks up with you because this life doesn't fit her. She keeps being asked to do BD work for some big corpos and she's just so tired and wants to leave. So, in my mind the Nomad ending are good for Panam/Judy and the other ending good for Kerry/River.

They could add them 2 men more content in future based on the ending you picked up I'd guess.

 

[DRaptor-1]

And here is problem. So they should get more attention in DLC not less to make them more story revelent. Also for those who is not interested in Panam DLCs that based on her is not really interesting.

Well Panam is an important character in both cases if you romance her or not. She helps you till the end also if you are only a friend. Kerry and River doesnt.

River got a family in NC, he cant leave for you.
Kerry got a dream. Make a name by his self with out johnny's help or corporations help. He is to attached to the glory, he just want be famous. Neither him can leave with you.

As i said, Panam is another thing, she helps you in any case. So we dont want a DLC based on Panam, but is obvious she will be there, for how the story is written.
Then of course we want more content with her (as you liked kerry and river and want more with them), is normal you are in a thread of Panam lovers XD
But i repeat, is more logical to see more Panam, than see more kerry or river.
Not everyone can be a main character ..

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We're all there with you - the emptiness after Queen of the Highway is brutal after your interactions stop with Panam. It's all a rush and then you get dropped back into a world where no one cares about you and Panam only acknowledges you and her with a single line of dialogue that never changes. You get a text message of hope, but that's it, making the disappointment all the more complete. And I don't think it's any sort of cheating - my wife makes fun of me and my silly crush on a virtual character that'll she'll never understand.

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Hear hear!

My gf jokes on me too for this btw
She think im dumb lol but ye, she cant understand

 

[cergyn]

Well Panam is an important character in both cases if you romance her or not. She helps you till the end also if you are only a friend. Kerry and River doesnt.

River got a family in NC, he cant leave for you.
Kerry got a dream. Make a name by his self with out johnny's help or corporations help. He is to attached to the glory, he just want be famous. Neither him can leave with you.

As i said, Panam is another thing, she helps you in any case. So we dont want a DLC based on Panam, but is obvious she will be there, for how the story is written.
Then of course we want more content with her (as you liked kerry and river and want more with them), is normal you are in a thread of Panam lovers XD
But i repeat, is more logical to see more Panam, than see more kerry or river.
Not everyone can be a main character..

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My gf jokes on me too for this btw
She think im dumb lol but ye, she cant understand

It's logical only in one ending out of all. Also I don't understand why DLC have to be in Arizona, there is too much pointers on other development. Those rouge AI, Peralez, Mr. Blue Eyes. If Panam said that they won't return to night city does not mean that, if possible cure will point to night city. Also possibility of cure much more real in sun ending, than in star, but for reason panam is not with you it's "bad ending".

>So we dont want a DLC based on Panam
Tell this to tons of comments in this same thread that wish of Arizona DLC.

>(as you liked kerry and river and want more with them)
Problem is I did not, they definitely not well developed, as I said earlier, especially Kerry (you can't even flirt with him).

>Not everyone can be a main character
But it have to be Panam? Again it's only in one ending is true.

 

[Vitalurg]

The main difference between Panam/Judy and Kerry/River is that Kerry/River have no reasons to leave NC. Tbh Kerry and River can’t help V with finding cure. Do they have contacts with corporations in NC or beyond it? I suppose, they don’t.
Panam and Judy have more similarities with V, both their and V fates prove that people like them who stay in NC can’t be really happy and free. Of course, they have work (Judy is BD specialist and Panam is mercenary) but that’s not enough. V’s story tell us that NC is black hole which swallows up everyone who wants to change it. You can even be a Legend of NC. But what must you give in return?
Imo destroying Arasaka and defeating Adam Smasher make you legend anyway.

 

[cergyn]

Tbh Kerry and River can’t help V with finding cure. Do they have contacts with corporations in NC or beyond it? I suppose, they don’t.

Kerry definitely does have some connections. In Arasaka ending he promises to make some calls to get v of from that space stations.

 

[WildOrchid]

The main difference between Panam/Judy and Kerry/River is that Kerry/River have no reasons to leave NC. Tbh Kerry and River can’t help V with finding cure. Do they have contacts with corporations in NC or beyond it? I suppose, they don’t.
Panam and Judy have more similarities with V, both their and V fates prove that people like them who stay in NC can’t be really happy and free. Of course, they have work (Judy is BD specialist and Panam is mercenary) but that’s not enough. V’s story tell us that NC is black hole which swallows up everyone who wants to change it. You can even be a Legend of NC. But what must you give in return?
Imo destroying Arasaka and defeating Adam Smasher make you legend anyway.

Judy also doesn't know how to help V with the cure, although considering she has connections with some high ups, for example the Peralez got in touch with Judy to find a merc and Judy recommended V, i would guess she could make some calls. But for Judy, the Nomad ending is her only escape along with V and I'd wager she'd help Panam for a cure.
And considering the latest post about Kerry it seems both Panam and Kerry have connections. Not sure about River tho.

 

[DRaptor-1]

It's logical only in one ending out of all. Also I don't understand why DLC have to be in Arizona, there is too much pointers on other development. Those rouge AI, Peralez, Mr. Blue Eyes. If Panam said that they won't return to night city does not mean that, if possible cure will point to night city. Also possibility of cure much more real in sun ending, than in star, but for reason panam is not with you it's "bad ending".

>So we dont want a DLC based on Panam
Tell this to tons of comments in this same thread that wish of Arizona DLC.

>(as you liked kerry and river and want more with them)
Problem is I did not, they definitely not well developed, as I said earlier, especially Kerry (you can't even flirt with him).

>Not everyone can be a main character
But it have to be Panam? Again it's only in one ending is true.

Bud they made the game like that. Is pointless complain on "oh i dont like Panam, why she must be a main character?" If thats your idea ok, but you are in the wrong thread tho

Ps. The majority of the players likes Panam, so i guess they did a good job making her main character

 

[cergyn]

Imo destroying Arasaka and defeating Adam Smasher make you legend anyway.

Yes, but the reason why V goes for heist is for the promised cure/hint to it. It is his last job as he can say to his LI.

 

[DRaptor-1]

It's logical only in one ending out of all. Also I don't understand why DLC have to be in Arizona, there is too much pointers on other development. Those rouge AI, Peralez, Mr. Blue Eyes. If Panam said that they won't return to night city does not mean that, if possible cure will point to night city. Also possibility of cure much more real in sun ending, than in star, but for reason panam is not with you it's "bad ending".

>So we dont want a DLC based on Panam
Tell this to tons of comments in this same thread that wish of Arizona DLC.

>(as you liked kerry and river and want more with them)
Problem is I did not, they definitely not well developed, as I said earlier, especially Kerry (you can't even flirt with him).

>Not everyone can be a main character
But it have to be Panam? Again it's only in one ending is true.

Anyways, none of us said we want "only" a DLC in Arizona, there are alot other content to be add. They will add more than 1 dlc, so if they want they wil bring us alot of content (for example Mr. Blue eyes, space casino etc.)
This doesnt change the fact that we hope for an Arizona dlc first, and to have more Panam content

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Yes, but the reason why V goes for heist is for the promised cure/hint to it. It is his last job as he can say to his LI.

The reason why V leave with Panam is because he loves her AND because he want to find a cure too

 

[byMakez]

What lovers? My romance dump me in that ending, so I don't think that happy for me.

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Romance with Kerry and River are so bad compared to romance with Judy and Panam. If you don't want romance Panam you have to decline her advances like 4 times, but with Kerry there isn't any flirt lines at all. And all this cries for nomad DLC makes me sad, cause in that ending Kerry will dump you.

Bro, like no offense but u go in a thread called Panam Palmer Storyline and Sidequests DLC and told us that Kerry romance is weak for u compared to the others and why they shouldn't do an Arizona DLC like wtf? If u wanna discuss it or make a point for it, feel free to make another thread and post your opinion there thats what this forum is all about. I don't think u will convince ANYBODY of us that an Arizona DLC is not relevant. We just loved Panam. Her character, her dialogs and her missions. Thats why we wanna see a Arizona DLC, because for us, it would be the ultimate solution that we get more for this character. But to tell us that this DLC is not acceptable for a character that is not important to you. It is pretty much pointless ngl. I mean it's a waste of time for u at the end of the day and NOBODY EVER said here, that we ONLY want more romance options FOR PANAM. Many of us were active in other threads and wrote, that every romance should be fleshed out by interactions, activities, dialogs, and so on. They all need added content thats a fact. But our preference is Panam and thats whats it all about for us here.

 

[Aloen]

Bro, like no offense but u go in a thread called Panam Palmer Storyline and Sidequests DLC and told us that Kerry romance is weak for u compared to the others and why they shouldn't do an Arizona DLC like wtf? If u wanna discuss it or make a point for it, feel free to make another thread and post your opinion there thats what this forum is all about. I don't think u will convince ANYBODY of us that an Arizona DLC is not relevant. We just loved Panam. Her character, her dialogs and her missions. Thats why we wanna see a Arizona DLC, because for us, it would be the ultimate solution that we get more for this character. But to tell us that this DLC is not acceptable for a character that is not important to you. It is pretty much pointless ngl. I mean it's a waste of time for u at the end of the day and NOBODY EVER said here, that we ONLY want more romance options FOR PANAM. Many of us were active in other threads and wrote, that every romance should be fleshed out by interactions, activities, dialogs, and so on. They all need added content thats a fact. But our preference is Panam and thats whats it all about for us here.

Yup, that's why I'm here in this thread - I want to spend more time riding alongside Panam as we and the Aldecaldo go on runs and stuff. I don't know if it's going to happen or not, but it's what I want.

Now that i'm thinking of it - give me a "Heart of Stone" sized wrap up - can be a heist where-ever (maybe in our scenario Panam's contacts gave her the information that V needs to go there, add an adventure hook as required for the other endings and relationships), then give me a Blood and Wine Arizona adventure after that's all solved where we fight a local issue and we can breathe and be happy with our clan.

 

[Spectral_Warrior]

Anyways, none of us said we want "only" a DLC in Arizona, there are alot other content to be add. They will add more than 1 dlc, so if they want they wil bring us alot of content (for example Mr. Blue eyes, space casino etc.)
This doesnt change the fact that we hope for an Arizona dlc first, and to have more Panam content

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The reason why V leave with Panam is because he loves her AND because he want to find a cure too

My V is a Nomad from the start and after Night City brought only a negative spiral, it seemed only logical to call upon my newfound family and close friends out in the badlands. Outside of Judy the Aldecaldos were in the best position to help me at that point in time.
As I play a female V Panam became a close and trusted friend and Judy became my LI. When we went for Arasaka Tower Panam must've dragged me back out. Having set up everything to pack up and go for the south she also arranged for Judy to be picked up. When it became clear on that lookout spot that V was still suffering from a lethal sickness she vowed to help.

I am also right there with you, all of us want multiple DLCs for the various endings because there's more than just the Nomad path that leads into uncharted territory.
I will go on record that as a Nomad (I also identify with them most) I do care the most for the Arizona DLC.
For which we do not know how much we spend there btw. Its more so the Nomad story we want, and that happens to start off in Arizona because of what the game tells us up until now.

 

[DRaptor-1]

My V is a Nomad from the start and after Night City brought only a negative spiral, it seemed only logical to call upon my newfound family and close friends out in the badlands. Outside of Judy the Aldecaldos were in the best position to help me at that point in time.
As I play a female V Panam became a close and trusted friend and Judy became my LI. When we went for Arasaka Tower Panam must've dragged me back out. Having set up everything to pack up and go for the south she also arranged for Judy to be picked up. When it became clear on that lookout spot that V was still suffering from a lethal sickness she vowed to help.

I am also right there with you, all of us want multiple DLCs for the various endings because there's more than just the Nomad path that leads into uncharted territory.
I will go on record that as a Nomad (I also identify with them most) I do care the most for the Arizona DLC.
For which we do not know how much we spend there btw. Its more so the Nomad story we want, and that happens to start off in Arizona because of what the game tells us up until now.

Yes, exactly what I (i think in this thread xD ) feel and hope

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Bro, like no offense but u go in a thread called Panam Palmer Storyline and Sidequests DLC and told us that Kerry romance is weak for u compared to the others and why they shouldn't do an Arizona DLC like wtf? If u wanna discuss it or make a point for it, feel free to make another thread and post your opinion there thats what this forum is all about. I don't think u will convince ANYBODY of us that an Arizona DLC is not relevant. We just loved Panam. Her character, her dialogs and her missions. Thats why we wanna see a Arizona DLC, because for us, it would be the ultimate solution that we get more for this character. But to tell us that this DLC is not acceptable for a character that is not important to you. It is pretty much pointless ngl. I mean it's a waste of time for u at the end of the day and NOBODY EVER said here, that we ONLY want more romance options FOR PANAM. Many of us were active in other threads and wrote, that every romance should be fleshed out by interactions, activities, dialogs, and so on. They all need added content thats a fact. But our preference is Panam and thats whats it all about for us here.

You deserve a medal