There is a possibility that given the creator of CP being on board with CDPR's development team, V might very likely be on the path to becoming the first fully cyberized human in the Cyberpunk universe. There are a lot of cues as to the inevitability of it happening, given the endings are left open-ended (believe me, 6 months is actually a long time to go on in an RPG setting); the Alt ending may actually be implicative of this being where it's headed.
Cloning technology exists in in the PnP Cyberpunk, it's advanced, but we're not talking 'Star Wars' levels of advanced. V is on borrowed time, and 6 months is simply not enough for that option.
Adam Smasher was almost completely cyberized save for his brain, and that was all through Arasaka Technology.
Multiple endings are actually implicating that the NUSA is getting involved, who are confirmed to be leagues above Arasaka in terms of technological and military prowess. Both current lore and PnP lore actually states that should the NUSA want it, they could wipe out all of the Corporations in the CP setting. It would be unwise to do so, however, because it would permanently damage the infrastructure of the country. Other global superpowers exist outside of the US.
I now suspect that we're getting a GITS treatment of V. Motoko Kusanagi was actually very capable of having intimate, physical relationships with people, if any one is concerned about that.
Cloning technology exists in in the PnP Cyberpunk, it's advanced, but we're not talking 'Star Wars' levels of advanced. V is on borrowed time, and 6 months is simply not enough for that option.
Adam Smasher was almost completely cyberized save for his brain, and that was all through Arasaka Technology.
Multiple endings are actually implicating that the NUSA is getting involved, who are confirmed to be leagues above Arasaka in terms of technological and military prowess. Both current lore and PnP lore actually states that should the NUSA want it, they could wipe out all of the Corporations in the CP setting. It would be unwise to do so, however, because it would permanently damage the infrastructure of the country. Other global superpowers exist outside of the US.
I now suspect that we're getting a GITS treatment of V. Motoko Kusanagi was actually very capable of having intimate, physical relationships with people, if any one is concerned about that.
I will also apologize for while I think that two of the endings have you survive, I also am sick of "The hero dies" endings.
* Fallout 3
* Mass Effect 3
* Bioshock Infinite's DLC
* RDR
Is there a reason so many games are in love with these?
* Fallout 3
* Mass Effect 3
* Bioshock Infinite's DLC
* RDR
Is there a reason so many games are in love with these?
Only one company is able to create clones - biotechnica.
In addition, cloning is illegal in all parts of the world.
However. After arasakas push with relic 2.0, other companies might be willing to ignore that, because it would be lucrative to sell blank mind clones to rich people, so they don't have to sacrifice close relatives.
The perfect joint venture...
Its an option but one that only works in combination with a stable relic 2.0, an engram, a clone and time..
Its not much on player cynycism, its just shitty endings trying to be ambiguous. But they arent, they just edgy and shitty.
I think an interesting question is whether gamers would accept a Uploaded V is the "Real" V as that's entirely possible with Soulkiller and putting them in a new body via a chip as we see with Johnny. He was created with technology that's 50 years old and as much as an asshole as he is, there's no sign he's not 100% a perfect reproduction of Johnny if not actually the real thing.
Especially since Cyberspace in Mike Pondsmith's world isn't servers and farms but a literal alternate dimension that people tap into (which is fucking weird but it was the Eighties).
Mass effect 3 is a very poor example, because the company was grilled for that games endi g and never really came back after it.
It was poor and shoddy writing and admittedly cobbled together by hack Casey Hudson within a few days, because they had absolutely no idea how to end the game.
In addition, they changed the endings...
Rdr series ist also different, because your death is set in stone, unlike V's fate. In fact, we safe V in several of the endings and still die, because of a lousy plot device, wich doesn't serve any real purpose, except invoking a very negative reaction.
Fallout 3s endi g was retconned in a dlc.
In bioshock infinite, nothing really made sense, so it was ok.
Not really.
In the first, the hero survives in game with DLC.
In the second - in the red ending and certain conditions.
Once upon a time, drama was in vogue, but it really fucked up the players and does not pay off well.
Many people already said it, but the entire story arc was about "Change", "Evolving", "Accepting to move on". This was a theme so recurring that I could feel one of the ending coming crystal clear: a way to "merge" Johnny and V, thus becoming a new person, having come to terms with the fact that this relic changed you for better or worse.
Honestly, I had made my peace with this path halfway through the game, and was ready to accept becoming part Johnny, part me, it even made me reflect on what makes "you" who you are.
But nope, it was about accepting death or denying it till the bitter end. Nothing to do with "Change/Evolution". Quite the opposite. A totally missed opportunity.
Honestly, I had made my peace with this path halfway through the game, and was ready to accept becoming part Johnny, part me, it even made me reflect on what makes "you" who you are.
But nope, it was about accepting death or denying it till the bitter end. Nothing to do with "Change/Evolution". Quite the opposite. A totally missed opportunity.
Adequate players will accept. And dreamers can continue to build delusional theories about copying.
Alt already used soulkiller to extract and seperate V and Johnny. So the question is already there, is it still the "Real V" because it is the original body, or is "Real V" already gone because of the use of soulkiller?
I like the idea to save V with a new body, seems like the most logical way to save him/her.
I'm writing at over 430 pages and you have no idea how much I want this to be true...6,539 messages, 327 pages. Don't give up guys, can't really be ignored at this point la!! We might eventually get a response/statement sooner than later, a "we're working on it" at least, hopefully
There is no such question in the game, it was brought from somewhere else.
This is the real V. How real a digital projection of consciousness can be.
This is Cyberpunk, not Soma. Calm down already.
I consider the engram as a perfect copy of V's mind went it is done -it's also sold that way by Arasaka. However, by introducing the "soul" stuff, CDPR totally invalidate that. The soul decays (lol) and thus, the copy becomes more and more degraded.
And curiously, they build a story in which a 60 year old engram is simply changing and evolving, regaining some humanity, acknowledging his failures and quelling his pride. Becoming human, sort of.
The only delisional theory about copying is CDPR's.
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Nope.
I think you misunderstood.
This is V's consciousness. This is how it works in terms of game mechanics.
Maybe. They were smart enough not to explain how it works. For which too zealous players immediately took up.
Nope, it's not satisfying because all the flaws you write. Also because no matter the road you take, you're still at Roma in the end. This is not roleplaying, this is railroad playing.
I don't want "more". I accept the bad ending in the Witcher 3 because it is logic, it is not against the character of the world and it is fitting for a desperate Geralt.
In CP2077, CDPR make a giant middlefinger to the players. Nothing less.
I have chosen the endings cause they are there. Not because they are interesting, or fulfilling or anything else, but simply because this is the endgame and there is one way to go.
Besides, there is no choice. They're all the same :
- die now (suicide / going with alt / believing Arasaka has become a philanthropic company)
- die in 6 month (nope, there is no cure my cute desert rat )
The only open ending is the space one. Playing that run is the thing I want. Or it is also the costliest way to commit suicide...
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This is not smart. This is lazy.
Besides, there are 30 years of gaming stuff explaining what it is. CDPR simply chose to reject the background to serve a somewhat bad story.
It is impossible with the current level of technology to clearly "explain" how it works. Especially not for scientists but for simple players. This is a convention to be accepted. Like the existence of a time machine or hyperdrive. Instead of pretending to be Einsteins.
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6 months is a completely open ending for me.
There is no need to rush and kill your character. You can still do all kinds of nonsense in the city. Or go through the story, but first saved in many slots.
Then wait for the dlc with the ending and go through it for real.
i know which of those two titles i'd rather be labelled with
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oooh hope not, I want to be a hedonistic meatbag if i'm living in night city
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There are no such questions like "Is uploaded life, still life?" or "Is the uploaded being still the same?" in the game? Aha...
I only made clear, if people really have a problem with an uploaded consciousness for their character, it would be a problem, cause it already happend. Thats it.
I am totally calm, maybe you should check your attitude.
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Repeating this doesn't make it true. Why do you keep saying this?
1. Nomad: You go off to find a cure and according to the player's desire, probably do.
2. Arasaka: You become immortal.
It doesn't make any sense and is just weird.
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