seems like game is holding your hand for stealth approach, enemies turn their backs on purpose in most convenient place
It has a number of flaws from both sides of the too easy/too impossible divide, but the thing that's really irritating me about sneak is that as of about 2-3 patches ago, my V just randomly stands up in the middle of sneaking. I mean she does this a lot. Why?! D:
Edit: I can't type.
Edit: I can't type.
You're fine with your typing, btw. The stand up glitch, oh my, that's not the worst, though..
Reminds me, you used to be able to do this while stealthing, AI scripting stupidity or not now.. https://gamerant.com/cyberpunk-2077-nanowire-stealth-kills/
Who was that genious that thought it was good idea to make it work like that?
Lets see how it should work in a 2077 world:- You can pick up ur knives
- As you progress you would be able to unlock some kind of magnetic knives slot, which would work like that:
*When you throw a knive, and wants to pick it up, press a "X" button to automatically "summon" it to ur magnetic pocked (from a X distance)
*You would need special knive mod to make it work, and eq mod
Imagine it, like that scene with Magneto from X-man (2:23)
Who was that genious that thought it was good idea to make it work like that?
- You can pick up ur knives
- As you progress you would be able to unlock some kind of magnetic knives slot, which would work like that:
*When you throw a knive, and wants to pick it up, press a "X" button to automatically "summon" it to ur magnetic pocked (from a X distance)
*You would need special knive mod to make it work, and eq mod
Imagine it, like that scene with Magneto from X-man (2:23)
That's actually not a bad idea. Instead, I'm carrying around a bunch of grey knives instead of breaking them down, and furthermore, I try to de-equip any good blade I have when I'm stealthing.
I don't think there's a problem specifically with stealth, it's just the whole AI issue again and proove how important it is for CDPR to fix it.
In fact, the enemies not looking for you even when you're detected isn't only annoying during stealth...Run around gun blasting and you'll still have a couple idiots here and there not knowing where you are (even though they're in an adjacent room, sometimes).
The AI must be among the top priority for CDPR during the future patches, along with the most ridiculous bugs.
It might be due to the dodge that needs to be done by pressing a direction twice. It's fairly counter intuitive during stealth because it's borderline impossible to slowly move around without triggering a dodge in the process (because you're gonna "tap" a direction quiet often when you're approaching an opening so you don't poke your nose too far in one direction).
I'm personally using a mod that allow me to perform the dodge differently. If you want to do the same, make sure to make backup files of everything (game files and savefile).
In fact, the enemies not looking for you even when you're detected isn't only annoying during stealth...Run around gun blasting and you'll still have a couple idiots here and there not knowing where you are (even though they're in an adjacent room, sometimes).
The AI must be among the top priority for CDPR during the future patches, along with the most ridiculous bugs.
I don't think it's a bug.
It might be due to the dodge that needs to be done by pressing a direction twice. It's fairly counter intuitive during stealth because it's borderline impossible to slowly move around without triggering a dodge in the process (because you're gonna "tap" a direction quiet often when you're approaching an opening so you don't poke your nose too far in one direction).
I'm personally using a mod that allow me to perform the dodge differently. If you want to do the same, make sure to make backup files of everything (game files and savefile).
Ahh. I hit that thing all the time and fly into NPC's who then run and cower in terror as if they aren't even armed sometimes, that was weird.. Great scripting. lol
Yeah, that's a good suggestion, let me link it for them. https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/102
Stealth is fine for an RPG game. It’s not Rainbow six here. The AI obviously needs work, I agree. But for me, I’m on hard mode and hit max level very early so I’m crafting legendary items and I’m mowing tru everything now, including bosses. Point is, it’s a role playing game. Make of it what you want. Example, I can equip low level gear for personal challenge, or play on easy and mow everything down without legendary items. It’s role playing single player. For realistic immersive stealth, you’re playing the wrong game. I mean we have Kerenzikov, reinforced tendons, and projectile launch systems in our arms! Not so subtle! And net runners so... I mean we can harp on stealth, sure, but it’s one of many roles... just saying.
BlazinBender, out!
I agree with you, but this is with all games that are not stealth focused games. You can't really compare MGSV stealth to the stealth here. MGSV is a game where stealth is a priority, so of course stealth AI is better. But if you compare it to something like fallout, stealth is basically the same in both these games because stealth is not a priority. They just want it to function, and it does.
Because it's not a priority. Same as in most RPGs that have stealth, it's just one way to play out of many, so it's not important.
Hey, I loved auto stealthwalking into a corner while an enemy was around and going out to do stuff to come back to a maxed out stealth. Best Stealth ever!!!
Stealth in the game is ridiculuosly bad. It's clear that it's added, not built on purpose, because there are no such vital mechanics like killing while sitting around the corner. For me, stealth was merely all about using quickhacks, like, ping --> whistle --> hiding around the corner --> waiting 'till the enemy goes back --> getting them. Later I realised that if you quickhack an enemy with something undeadly (like short circuit) they don't start a fight, rather just looking around. So you can hack a videocamera that is closest to you and jump through all of them hacking every person camera sees.
I play on Xbox One X and before I gave up playing to wait for the 2021 updates, I played the Panam missions. One in particular had me chose either stealth or guns blazing. I chose stealth, and the mission was also in the desert. I played this one mission for almost 3 hours and died a million times. I only have 5 hack bars so that's one issue. But beyond hacking, there were drones flying around everywhere and there was very little to no cover for me to use.
It didn't matter how quiet I was or if there was no other living, or artificial, being around, I'd be spotted, again, with nobody in sight!!! That shouldn't happen unless there's some kind of thermal sensor's around that I'm not aware of.
When I did manage to get inside the building I stayed put until all the alarms were timed out and the AI quit looking for me. The comments about opening a door to see an AI on the other side of the room are accurate where the AI will stare at you but not move. I'm in plain sight and they are unable to move.
In another area I hacked the camera in a small room where one AI was guarding. I snuck inside and killed the AI. Nobody else could have seen me and there were no other cams in my area. Right after I killed the guard it was if every AI and drone not knew exactly where I was and I was quickly dispatched. It was at that point I put the controller down, shut down the game, and loaded up Valhalla.
So yep, stealth for me is not good in this game. I'm not sure what they were going for. I hope things are changed in the major updates planned for early 2021. Stealth aside, I just want to play a game that's not screen freezing everytime I play it and without all the graphical glitches. If they can do that I can live with the stealth the way it is, or isn't.
The story. It seems that is what they were focused on the most here.
