The Level Of Sensuality and Sexuality in the Upcoming Extensions - Sequels

[kharax.199]

The Level Of Sensuality and Sexuality in the Upcoming Extensions - Sequels

[size=12pt]Dear Reader,I believe that the level of sensuality in the upcoming extensions or Sequels of The Witcher, can be discussed among the players of the game.One has to admit that the sensuality in the gameplay, plays one of the important roles in what makes The Witcher, unique. Because a witcher, unlike wizards or hobbits etc, is an RPG character, also associated with sexuality. Warning: This topic is not about putting porn inside The Witcher, full stop. We all know that the sexual needs of a person, can be satisfied anywhere else and it's cheaper.This topic is to have your and all the gamers' thoughts about an offer I have written below based on the facts, above. I'm a 31 year-old male. The Witcher is the only game for which I try my best to find time to play in my scarce leisure time.The reason why I play the Witcher with this enthusiasm, is the huge size of the environment, the combats of realistic characters and visual objects, cleverly thought-upon potions, the complexity and the grandeur of the stories, the powerful sound effects and the soundtrack and the eroticism combined within the game, in means of giving the true reflection of who a witcher is. For example: For a white wizard or a hobbit, sexuality is irrelevant. But for a witcher, sexuality is a part of his life. The erotic cards, the inviting dialogues between the characters and the wonderful figures of the female characters in the game are beautifully presented, but I strongly believe that the power of eroticism is still low when compared to the features of a witcher.The encounter with Shani and Vesna Hood was close to what can be expected, but the sounds could be more erotic and the animations could be a little more daring.The back cover of my game dvd says: "Contains strong sex, violence and drugs references". Yes, the game has strong sex references, what I propose here is that the game can have some "mild sexual content", other than "strong sexual reference".For the ones who still think that this topic is irrelevant and that decent gamers don't have to deal with so-called "perverts" like me, please read the topic "is there anyway to uncensore my censored version" by reishi, which is read 12.362 times as of now... How many people want to uncensore their censored version? Dear readers: as you all know, a witcher is an enhanced male human who has many sexual encounters with females throughout his life, whose sexual prowess is mentioned by many females, who is immune to illnesses and who is infertile... The soul of this character, which gives the game its name, the soul of a witcher has sexuality inside. And in my opinion, Geralt needs more than erotic cards and limited 3D movies. Not porn, but more graphic sexuality. If international formats limit the game to put that level of sensuality, then I would again humbly suggest the creators of the game to think about giving a special option of age verification to the player, by a request to send a scanned image of his/her ID to your unit, and the unit, providing a unique key, which can be entered only by using the product key of the individual game dvd. (a second key, integrated into the individual product key of the game, maybe?) I do not think that adding such a special option of increased sexuality would ruin the gameplay and the decency and character of The Witcher, itself. Instead, I think it would clarify the features of a witcher, better. Believe me, the cost of a special unit to collect IDs and give unlock codes for the sexuality in the game to the registered gamer, and the additional programming of this possibility (game visuals and security), would be less than the profit you would gain from the additional sales numbers you would have from the addition of this unique specialty in The Witcher.I would love to see at least a Special Extension of the Witcher, even pay for it, one more time. You see gamers here, offering the makers of the game to pay for an option of voiceovers for the 1.3patch.I believe that a computer game is the most intimate form of a bond between a person and media. So there must be an increased level of intimacy between those two, in a legendary game, like The Witcher.If the detailed combat scenes, if flying cut-off heads, if monsters eating corpses and tons of blood are shown graphically, then sex, up to a certain point has to be shown graphically, again. Mark the hilarious contrast and think again before seeing me as a pervert: We all know what sex is (18+), but how many of us have cut a person's head off with a sword? So, if the game is for 18+, and if this game blends a man spending the night with a woman with a man fighting a demon in the opening movie, then it has to respect the same level of visual presentation for both, meaning the combat and the sex.Or are we starting to see sex as disgusting and abnormal and rude and pervert, while seeing gore, monsters, potions, elixirs, swords, cut-off human heads and rotting human skeletons as normal and ordinary?? I would love to see you consider my humble thoughts, as such of a businessman and show respect to everbody's thoughts, here.Kind Regards,Kharax[/size]

 

[Petestar1969.899]

Please don't write in red it gives me a headache.Please try to help me erase the picture I now have in my head of an unknown person (ie you) playing The Witcher and whacking off.You are a scary sounding person and your post is really creepy.

 

[kharax.199]

Dear friends:Just an additional reminder:Sexuality is a part of a witcher (think about the women talking about the sexual prowesses of witchers, the opening movie, blending speding a night with a woman and fighting a monster etc.) and that cannot be underestimated.Having strong sexual references in a game like The Witcher would increase the realistic imagery, excitement and the will to have progress in the game. That's all.One can find many different means of media to "whack off", other than The Witcher having tens of hours of gameplay fighting demons, reading thousands of lines of complex script, brewing potions and creating strategies.Just like a good RPG game. I am not talking about pornography here.But I believe there can be more than erotic cards and repeating blurred images.We are all individuals here, unknown to the ones who don't know us, naturally And one must not get scared of forum posts Best Regards.

 

[ringeck]

1.isn`t it that the game got "strong sexual.." label according to some laws? 0_o Ithought it can`t be helped, especially in usa.2.not enough sexuality? use mods. or create your own.

 

[petra_silie]

1.isn`t it that the game got "strong sexual.." label according to some laws? 0_o Ithought it can`t be helped, especially in usa.

Yes you got it

I am sure you all know better than me, that the genderwise distribution of the players of the Witcher, must be around 90% male, 5% female and 5% gamers with other other sexual preferences; therefore The Witcher has to be created majorly for straight male players for maintaining a reasonable profit margin.

Where did you get these results from? I think this is wishful thinking but not a reliable base for a discussion.Do you think the target audience of the game buy it because of sexual entertainment and preferences and minor other roleplay content?

One has to admit that the sensuality in the gameplay, plays one of the important roles in what makes The Witcher, unique.

Sex plays an impportant role in the game? Did you see the game adverts? Do those ads highlight sex (resp. strong sex)?

But if The Witcher wants to make good use of this "strong sex", then it has to include at least more powerful audio/visual references to the sensual/sexual interactions.

There is strong sexual content in the game though not your desired visuals close ups of an intensive and detailed **** I think "your mother sucks dwarfes *****" is strong sexual content or do you consider this as an invitation for a tea party on a Sunday afternoon? Besides this "strong sex" is not a description of the game's content but a marking for the determination of the age's rating.I get the impression you are looking for the wrong game. What you want is a game with sex as a main part.

 

[didi510]

There is strong sexual content in the game though not your desired visuals close ups of an intensive and detailed **** I think "your mother sucks dwarfes *****" is strong sexual content or do you consider this as an invitation for a tea party on a Sunday afternoon?

I guess that depends on the kind of tea parties you go to But seriously, I think sensuality doesn't necessarily have to be directly connected with sex, actually. It could be in a gesture, a look, innuendos in a conversation. Flirting can be sensual and not sexually explicit. Although I don't find myself playing to get thrills off the sex scenes, but to learn the story and feel basically invincible through combat. For the sex, I could just go play Farenheit and repeat the bed scene over and over if I wanted to, if that was the point of playing a game. And if that was the point of The Witcher, there would be a big A in the ESRB rating logo...Besides, I'd rather have real sex with my husband. It's a lot more meaningful.

 

[Corylea.723]

I think people are being much too hard on the original poster. He does say, "The sexuality for sexual needs of a person, can be found anywhere else and cheaper. So this topic is not about putting porn inside The Witcher, full stop." We see Geralt kill a zillion creatures, and some of the finishing moves are fairly graphic, but none of us say that the game is too violent -- we play these kinds of games because we want to kill monsters. Yet whenever the topic of sex comes up, people get uncomfortable. Personally, I found having to kill Siegfried to be far more disturbing than any consensual sex between adults could be.I, too, would like to see more realism and detail in the sex scenes between Geralt and his ladies. We see him kill monsters in gory detail, yet when he has sex with a woman, both of them are standing right where they were when it's over and behaving as if nothing had happened.We've had some discussions of sexual realism in The Witcher before (e.g. http://www.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?topic=11064.msg282632#msg282632), and the posters there got less negative attention than this poster is getting. I notice that he's posted exactly twice, and I'm wondering if he'd be getting the responses he's getting if he were one of our regular posters.

 

[username_17]

@kharaxmaybe you have missed this thread, the mod "What a man needs" contains sexscenes (with same gender), maybe you want to try it out and tell us if this is your understanding of "strong sex" content.http://www.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?topic=12194.0As far as I understand you, this is what you want for the whole game but with women ? Is this your point? ???

 

[petra_silie]

Killing monsters for a living is a main part of the game, fatal encounters with humans and non humans are unavoidable. Combat system has been highligted as a main part and somehting extra ordinary as well. If this has an equal importance as the sexual encounters it would have been highlighted as well. But sex is an "extra" perhaps on the same level as mini games. And even there, fistfights, dice or drinking gets more attention.

 

[kharax.199]

Killing monsters for a living is a main part of the game, fatal encounters with humans and non humans are unavoidable. Combat system has been highligted as a main part and somehting extra ordinary as well. If this has an equal importance as the sexual encounters it would have been highlighted as well. But sex is an "extra" perhaps on the same level as mini games. And even there, fistfights, dice or drinking gets more attention.

The Witcher kills monsters for a living, he is immune to illnesses and he is infertile/sterile.In the opening movie, the blend of spending a night with a woman is integrated into killing a monster. There is no need to highlight sex, that is in the very soul of The Witcher. Witchers are known for their sexual prowess and their encounters with women. And... Are there any female witchers?? Witchers are unique characters by themselves in the RPG world and sex, I believe, is never an extra for a witcher... If that was the case, then why would CDProjekt risk an 18 age rating?? They could be well down to 13 and that would increase sales numbers?Finished your beer?

 

[Gamewidow]

i think you are getting a little overly worked up about this ... i've had my beer, i'm in a good place, let's keep it that way

 

[kharax.199]

@kharaxmaybe you have missed this thread, the mod "What a man needs" contains sexscenes (with same gender), maybe you want to try it out and tell us if this is your understanding of "strong sex" content.http://www.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?topic=12194.0As far as I understand you, this is what you want for the whole game but with women ? Is this your point? ???

Dear Hexenmeister Raven,No, it is not my point to make The Witcher a graphically sexual porn game, not at all. What I briefly want to say is: Collecting erotic cards does not really reflect a witcher's sexual life. Well, you may say you are not interested in a witcher's sex life but the game does. And if the game does, then the game has to give more than erotic cards and less than disgusting porn... As I have said before, one can find sexual entertainment anywhere in the Web and it is far more cheaper than a copy of The Witcher... So this post has nothing to do with putting porn in The Witcher. What must be in the game, in my opinion, is a very cleverly put graphic eroticism to match with the grandeur and quality of a game like The Witcher, but not only erotic cards and simple 3D animations. Thank you.

 

[kharax.199]

i think you are getting a little overly worked up about this ... i've had my beer, i'm in a good place, let's keep it that way

I just wanted to give my opinions for The Witcher... And I like to defend my thoughts... I like the game and I think a little more graphic sexuality could be fun, exciting and more truthful for a witcher That's all...I'm happy that you are alright and in a good place. It will be kept that way, then.Thank you...

 

[kharax.199]

I think people are being much too hard on the original poster. He does say, "The sexuality for sexual needs of a person, can be found anywhere else and cheaper. So this topic is not about putting porn inside The Witcher, full stop." We see Geralt kill a zillion creatures, and some of the finishing moves are fairly graphic, but none of us say that the game is too violent -- we play these kinds of games because we want to kill monsters. Yet whenever the topic of sex comes up, people get uncomfortable. Personally, I found having to kill Siegfried to be far more disturbing than any consensual sex between adults could be.I, too, would like to see more realism and detail in the sex scenes between Geralt and his ladies. We see him kill monsters in gory detail, yet when he has sex with a woman, both of them are standing right where they were when it's over and behaving as if nothing had happened.We've had some discussions of sexual realism in The Witcher before (e.g. http://www.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?topic=11064.msg282632#msg282632), and the posters there got less negative attention than this poster is getting. I notice that he's posted exactly twice, and I'm wondering if he'd be getting the responses he's getting if he were one of our regular posters.

Thank you, dear Corylea, I'm glad to see that you have seen my point of view and besides, the witcher is a unique character presented by CDProjekt to the RPG world who really has a special sexual connection to females. What I wanted to emphasize about the sexuality in The Witcher, was that and only that. I again underline that I do not want to see porn in The Witcher, but a more truthful sexuality, that's all...Thank you again...

 

[kharax.199]

There is strong sexual content in the game though not your desired visuals close ups of an intensive and detailed **** I think "your mother sucks dwarfes *****" is strong sexual content or do you consider this as an invitation for a tea party on a Sunday afternoon?

I guess that depends on the kind of tea parties you go to But seriously, I think sensuality doesn't necessarily have to be directly connected with sex, actually. It could be in a gesture, a look, innuendos in a conversation. Flirting can be sensual and not sexually explicit. Although I don't find myself playing to get thrills off the sex scenes, but to learn the story and feel basically invincible through combat. For the sex, I could just go play Farenheit and repeat the bed scene over and over if I wanted to, if that was the point of playing a game. And if that was the point of The Witcher, there would be a big A in the ESRB rating logo...Besides, I'd rather have real sex with my husband. It's a lot more meaningful.

A witcher, as far as I have seen, is a unique character in the RPG world and his sexual prowess is underlined more than a few times, in the game script. Therefore the game has its sexual character, going along with its other high quality virtues as an RPG game. I just thought that adding a little more graphical sexual content into the game would be more realistic and truthful, when witchers are the focus points. That was all I wanted to say... I didn't mean to say, "I can't be turned on enough by the sexuality in the game, increase it and include some porn so I can leave my girlfriend" Thank you.

 

[kharax.199]

1.isn`t it that the game got "strong sexual.." label according to some laws? 0_o Ithought it can`t be helped, especially in usa.2.not enough sexuality? use mods. or create your own.

1. Of course there are laws and they are almost universal, but those laws do not give the game a "strong sexual reference" rating because the game is in the upper limit, but because it exceeds the lower limit. For example, "Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude", still has the same rating and it is way over the sexual threshold of The Witcher. LSL is an extreme example, but it shows that The Witcher is not in the limits. That was the reason why I wrote this.2. Thank you for the advice I don't want to use mods or create my own... I am not saying this to satisfy my own insatiable sexual desires for God's sake, I can satisfy myself with my girlfriend alright. I did not create this topic to make CdProjekt create me a game that I have always wanted to satisfy my sexual needs! What I want to say is that a witcher is a unique character who is associated with sexuality. His sexual prowess is mentioned in the game more than a few times. In the opening movie, spending a night with a woman is blended with fighting a monster and he is infertile and is immune to illnesses... He has sexual encounters with more than 20 ladies in the game and also in the additional adventures, therefore he is not an a-sexual superhero character but a gifted man, using potions to enhance himself even more. The very soul of the game "The Witcher", has sexuality inside. And if the soul of the game, if the soul of the character has sexuality inside, than the game has to have sexuality inside, too... Not by childish erotic cards, but some more graphic sexuality. I am of course, NOT talking about porn at all, that is clearly NOT the objective of this topic. A witcher needs to have a little more graphic sexuality... If the game perfectly shows gore, violence, explosions, drugs in an explicit and almost extreme way, then sex, which is a very important part of a witcher's life, HAS to be shown in a more explicit way, than some erotic cards and 3D animations...Thank you...

 

[kharax.199]

Please don't write in red it gives me a headache.Please try to help me erase the picture I now have in my head of an unknown person (ie you) playing The Witcher and whacking off.You are a scary sounding person and your post is really creepy.

Pete...Please read all that is written for this topic.I answered you with my second general post in this topic already, but please read all.I don't want to see you as a supposedly 39 year old man, who cannot even handle red fonts and posts about sexuality in a game like The Witcher where the main character has more than 20 sexual encounters with various females...That would make me feel very sad...Anyways, I am the creator of this topic and I have a responsibility to reply to you, too.Take care.

 

[sig970]

I will give the original poster some credit. I don't think he is directing us back to the days of Leisure Suit Larry.I have never played a game quite like this. I loved the sexual aspect, but thought there were many aspects that took a front seat to the sex. I live in the USA, and played the censored version. I then downloaded the mod, and played with thenudity, and the nude cards. Besides #2 Shani, increasing my pulse rate by 20 points , I don't believe I missed anything. USA is a land of Big Government and censorship. Europe has it right. While I did enjoy the nude cards as art, and felt that you should be able to choose your version, they did not enhance the game for me. Others have stated the point well. There is much more to sex than the physical act. Flirting, gestures, and looks took me a long way the first 'censored' time I played it.I returned to my journal at times to relook at the cards, censored or not. It wasn't the nudity that attracted me, but remembering the encounter as a whole.I don't want to play through The Witcher just to see how many women I can have sex with.I showed my wife the sexual encounter between Geralt and Adda. She thought it was tasteful, but in the end simply asked me what it meant? I told her, the future of gaming. Sex is as natural as anything else. I felt that the developers handled it in a very positive way. I personally wouldn't add or take away anything from the delivery. The Witcher is one hell of a RPG/adventure. Having sex with 20 women is not even in the top 10 reasons to recommend it.

 

[Petestar1969.899]

Someone lock this topic, the OP is clearly wasting everyone's time.

 

[kharax.199]

I will give the original poster some credit. I don't think he is directing us back to the days of Leisure Suit Larry.I have never played a game quite like this. I loved the sexual aspect, but thought there were many aspects that took a front seat to the sex. I live in the USA, and played the censored version. I then downloaded the mod, and played with thenudity, and the nude cards. Besides #2 Shani, increasing my pulse rate by 20 points , I don't believe I missed anything. USA is a land of Big Government and censorship. Europe has it right. While I did enjoy the nude cards as art, and felt that you should be able to choose your version, they did not enhance the game for me. Others have stated the point well. There is much more to sex than the physical act. Flirting, gestures, and looks took me a long way the first 'censored' time I played it.I returned to my journal at times to relook at the cards, censored or not. It wasn't the nudity that attracted me, but remembering the encounter as a whole.I don't want to play through The Witcher just to see how many women I can have sex with.I showed my wife the sexual encounter between Geralt and Adda. She thought it was tasteful, but in the end simply asked me what it meant? I told her, the future of gaming. Sex is as natural as anything else. I felt that the developers handled it in a very positive way. I personally wouldn't add or take away anything from the delivery. The Witcher is one hell of a RPG/adventure. Having sex with 20 women is not even in the top 10 reasons to recommend it.

This topic has nothing to do with Leisure Suit Larry or anything that can be associated with it. To explain myself better, please try to see the game in the opposite way, in means of sex and violence/gore.If the violence and gore would be given to the gamer in the same level of sex, then there would be first a mean looking 3D monster, then some blurred video of a combat, some 4-5 second 3D animations of monsters growling and Geralt roaring before combat, if you are lucky and then, voila, a battle card, showing the slain beast.If the sex would be given to the gamer in the same level of violence, then there would be pure pornography.What I wanted to emphasize was that lack of balance. Neither of the above has to be in a game. Because it is just, not appropriate.But a balance can be created, by reducing the violence a little and increasing the sex just equally. An example of a sex scene: Imagine the scene with Vesna Hood (the watermill) It starts perfectly, the camera sweeps up to the mill, the people are afraid that the mill is haunted again because of the screamings of Vesna and we come down from the roof and (this is where my difference comes) let the camera get inside, show them having sex in a sensual and mildly graphic manner for 4-5 seconds and then pull the camera out of the other window.And the violence would be simply put, by not graphically showing cut-off heads and monsters eating corpses and incredible amounts of blood everywhere. Tell me now: Is this being a pervert? Is telling people that showing gore and extreme violence is perfectly possible, but showing mild graphic sex is rude and irrelevant? The Witcher is a character that combines intelligence, elixirs, violence and sex, equally. And the game, in my opinion has to present them, equally.As you see, I opened this topic to, talk about an almost social matter, and consequently to create a general opinion on the level of this balance stated above in the sequels or extensions of the game. Thank you