I almost forgot that vanilla Ciri even existed; I thought this thread was talking about Ciri: Nova at first. 
I suggest nerfing Ciri: Nova to 24 points instead of 25 (kidding, kidding).
I suggest nerfing Ciri: Nova to 24 points instead of 25 (kidding, kidding).
Vanilla Ciri should be taken out of the thunder range, be able to be triggered from the graveyard or given the immune tag. I'd be happy for most low strength golds to receive the immune tag to make them playable and less easy to lock/reset (bloody baron). If immune is battlefield only, Cerys also needs it
As for Ciri Nova, she should be given the Truce tag to her ability trigger IMHO.
As for Ciri Nova, she should be given the Truce tag to her ability trigger IMHO.
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Ciri needs 2 more armor
Right now, she is 6 value with 2 armor. That leaves her in the 8 range. She should have 4 armor instead of 2, so she would be in the 10 range. Since azur thunder does 9 damage and is by far the most popular removal spell being used, I think it reasonable to expect from a gold card that is going to be mulliganed if you drawn her on the last round, or even the second round if you lost the first one, to stay out of azur thunder range so she is really worth the risk and remains a viable choice in the card pool.
Oh, but of course, you can always say "she is intended for arena" and claim she needs no change at all, let people play something else.
Right now, she is 6 value with 2 armor. That leaves her in the 8 range. She should have 4 armor instead of 2, so she would be in the 10 range. Since azur thunder does 9 damage and is by far the most popular removal spell being used, I think it reasonable to expect from a gold card that is going to be mulliganed if you drawn her on the last round, or even the second round if you lost the first one, to stay out of azur thunder range so she is really worth the risk and remains a viable choice in the card pool.
Oh, but of course, you can always say "she is intended for arena" and claim she needs no change at all, let people play something else.
I am fine with this.
If she also gets the doomed tag.
No need for another gold that you can strengthen up and get your card advantage at the same time.
If she also gets the doomed tag.
No need for another gold that you can strengthen up and get your card advantage at the same time.
epsilon828;n10187312 said:I almost forgot that vanilla Ciri even existed; I thought this thread was talking about Ciri: Nova at first.
I suggest nerfing Ciri: Nova to 24 points instead of 25 (kidding, kidding).
That's what I thought, too.
you do realize that the entire reason that mandrake is currently popular is because Sabbath is also currently popular, right?1990BW;n10724091 said:
1990BW;n10727561 said:
Sabbath caused a big uptick in its popularity though.
Either way, restricting what it can target is probably not the direction to go in.
I have been saying this for months - Ciri became near useless, when Alzur's Thunder went from 7 to 9 damage, and even more when these Viper Witchers hitting for 10+ damage, which created this stupid removal meta that made locks redundant - "why just stop the unit's effect when you can stop the units effect by killing it?"
Lock should be the only sure counter to Ciri in 1 turn.
Lock should be the only sure counter to Ciri in 1 turn.
DRK3;n10728481 said:
Doesn't that risk making Ciri too powerful, given how game breaking carry over is?
iamthedave You're right, and i see the problems it could cause (which i was considering, from some of the previous posts here). Nowadays, CA is too important, and that leads to coinflip abuse which has become a serious problem in Gwent, in the last 6 months or so, at least from my view.
I guess players started playing in a more 'tryhard' fashion, and interesting cards like Ciri risked becoming too powerful, so they became too weak.
I guess players started playing in a more 'tryhard' fashion, and interesting cards like Ciri risked becoming too powerful, so they became too weak.