The PS5 and 4 versions are the same version just on a different machine. Most of the "bugs" on PS4 aren't actually bugs, but the result of the machine choking which leads to the engine breaking.
The PS5 and 4 versions are the same version just on a different machine. Most of the "bugs" on PS4 aren't actually bugs, but the result of the machine choking which leads to the engine breaking.
Which is why this game should never have been developed for that hardware. PS5 and XSX are fine, they're certainly not the biggest sore spots. Not everything can be blamed on hardware constraints, but the PS4 version seems most messed up right now and developing for those systems certainly put limitations on what was possible to achieve.
My understanding is they will be getting the PC version for those machines while for now they are running emulated version of their older generation counterparts. Those machines were definitely not up to the task of properly running this game. Heck, even people with inferior PC hardware are having issues such as the big crashes
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Get a girlfriend mate or play date-sim.
It will never work like this. It would take years to build it.
And even if they would create such complicated relationship system there is no console capable of running it. Game bearly run at all.
Those are the "realistic" options, but the problem with those options is that CDPR comes out of each of those options smelling like they just took a bath in cat vomit.
If they announce a revolutionary RPG, hype the game as a revolutionary RPG, and then ultimately leave that "revolutionary" game as a middle of the road looter-shooter with a story that really isn't more engaging than anything we've seen in the Borderlands series then who trusts them on anything in the future?
Hey everyone, today we are proud to announce, from the makers of the biggest damn marketing lie in gaming history, the next installment in the Witcher series, Witcher 4!! It will have X, allow you to do Y, and you can absolutely take our word for that!!
How many will be impressed by that? They were the creators of the Witcher franchise, but now they're the creators of CP77, and that is going to stick for a while until they do something remarkable to earn back the trust. Imagine if they just fix the worst bugs and call it a day on CP77, "promising" instead to get everything right in Cyberpunk 2? Who would trust that? The expectation for CP2 at this point is GTA Online with all the worst flaws of Fallout 76, but certainly oriented towards live services BS, with nothing but a middle finger for the SP segment.
So all the "realistic" and "rational" answers are not sufficient. There is no "reasonable" path back for CDPR, the way I see it. They are stuck on a one-way track to being a discount EA or Take-Two or ActiBliz with much less economic muscle behind them, and it will take something crazy to get off that track. Or they can do what pretty much everybody expects them to, keep going down that track, and then lose the one competitive advantage they used to have. Those are the options, and since the world has enough EA already, I really hope they'll do the crazy thing and at least try to climb out of the corpo swamp.
Seeing how things are right now with CD Project Red. Refunds, Law Suites, Rating Dropping Quickly as time Passes, Investors Furious and Suspicious with CDPR, Criticism of the game Dropping Left and Right All over the Media. Right now, CDPR is in a Total Shit Storm and Dealing with A LOT of things right now at Ounce.
Personally to me, I Enjoyed the Game. Wasn't really bad (Other Than the Bugs) and wasn't really that Good. it is what it is Honestly. I guess Mediocre at Best? I don't know. But wasn't anything to go Crazy About in my Opinion. Very Underwhelming. I can say it Plays Very Similar to Ubisoft's Far Cry Games for sure.
Honestly I'm more Disappointed in the Game than anything, only because I like it that much. So much Wasted Potential and Lies. They Majorly Overly Promised and Under Delivered. So much Cut Contented and Features, Basically 90% of the Original Game was Cut. (Only thing they didn't Cut was the Title of the Game) A lot of the time this would be Expected, but to go from some Ground Breaking RPG that they Bragged so much about up to the Release Date to Suddenly on Release to be a Looter Shooter is Really, really Crazy. And that doesn't take into Account of how much of a Mess it is in General on Console and PC.
So I was Curious, How the game is now.
Do you think they should Overhaul the Whole Game? Deliver on those Promises and just in General make a Cyberpunk 2077.2. Similar to FF14 and Anthem and Many other Games.
Or
Stay the way it is and just keep on the Path of Updates, Hot Fixes, DLCs and Expansions? MAYBE making up for the Cut Features and Bugs down the Line?
Personally to me, I Enjoyed the Game. Wasn't really bad (Other Than the Bugs) and wasn't really that Good. it is what it is Honestly. I guess Mediocre at Best? I don't know. But wasn't anything to go Crazy About in my Opinion. Very Underwhelming. I can say it Plays Very Similar to Ubisoft's Far Cry Games for sure.
Honestly I'm more Disappointed in the Game than anything, only because I like it that much. So much Wasted Potential and Lies. They Majorly Overly Promised and Under Delivered. So much Cut Contented and Features, Basically 90% of the Original Game was Cut. (Only thing they didn't Cut was the Title of the Game) A lot of the time this would be Expected, but to go from some Ground Breaking RPG that they Bragged so much about up to the Release Date to Suddenly on Release to be a Looter Shooter is Really, really Crazy. And that doesn't take into Account of how much of a Mess it is in General on Console and PC.
So I was Curious, How the game is now.
Do you think they should Overhaul the Whole Game? Deliver on those Promises and just in General make a Cyberpunk 2077.2. Similar to FF14 and Anthem and Many other Games.
Or
Stay the way it is and just keep on the Path of Updates, Hot Fixes, DLCs and Expansions? MAYBE making up for the Cut Features and Bugs down the Line?
Business logic gives us a fairly clear answer.
Would you
a) Rebuild and regain the lost brand value by fixing and polishing the current released game, to build hype and anticipation for the DLCs. Each sold expansion rises the probability of a new copy of the core game being sold and building a franchise that will make the follow-up game a certain success.
OR
b) lose face like never before, just go with "deal with it" - attitude, make some half-assed DLCs and leave CDRP in ashes after over 10 years of hard work and dedication to make it into the studio they are today. Pretty much start over.
Thing about Business Logic is it's very Unpredictable. Reason why Companies never Experiment with much of anything and go the "Safe Route" To insure Steady Profited. If they do Experiment, then it's so minor it doesn't make a Dent in anything for them.
There's no Logic here as much as you try, just what to Expect cause anything can go right or Wrong, Especially in the Gaming Biz. It's like a Fickle Whore, you never know what's going to Get her On or Off, but it's going to be Costly that's for sure.
I expect them to just keep the Game as is and just Work on that. There's still room and Time to Blow our Minds with it I guess. It's the Safest thing to do.
They wanna Gamble again, then they can do the Latter and see where that Takes them. Doubt it but, Never Know.
This was my only shot at seeing a shadowrun style game on this gen xbox or ps4....i dont care how but i want what was sold to me.
Gta online has proven you don't have to move on.
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Gta online has proven you don't have to move on.
Prioritize bug fixes, stability and performance, release whatever they're working on currently then move on
this game is missing so much content thats been cut, and whatever we have in the final game is so half assed, like the character creation/progression, the driving, the looter shooter diarrhea, the fact that half of Pacifica is inaccessible, same goes for nearly most of Arasaka Waterfront, and you can't just simply "fix" the story
i only speak for myself but i don't want to go back 2-3 years from now to play whatever i already played only with lots of band aids applied, i'd rather wait a couple more years to get something new and fresh, not being held back by ancient console hardware, and with a better leading team with a better, clearer vision of what they want the game to actually achieve
because nearly none of the promises they made back in 2012 conference has been delivered, just let it go
this game is missing so much content thats been cut, and whatever we have in the final game is so half assed, like the character creation/progression, the driving, the looter shooter diarrhea, the fact that half of Pacifica is inaccessible, same goes for nearly most of Arasaka Waterfront, and you can't just simply "fix" the story
i only speak for myself but i don't want to go back 2-3 years from now to play whatever i already played only with lots of band aids applied, i'd rather wait a couple more years to get something new and fresh, not being held back by ancient console hardware, and with a better leading team with a better, clearer vision of what they want the game to actually achieve
because nearly none of the promises they made back in 2012 conference has been delivered, just let it go
I don't want a new story. I like this one. I like the city, I like the mood, and I like V.
I've already seen this bullshit before. People complained about WATCH_DOGS and they got a WACKY and happy weird WATCH_DOGS 2.
Follow through on what you've already established.
Fucking funny, 'cause I saw the same shit and I can tell that the game they were going for was the one that we got.
It's funny if you've played Cyberpunk 2020 because there's HUGE chunks of the original game, including a whole adventure module from the original game in the material.
I'm pretty sure Prior to Keanu, we'd still have Silverhand in our head.
For years following sentence was set in stone between me and my boyfriend, when we discussed games:
"Well, this game is good/okay (RDR2 etc.), but.... Witcher 3 is the best
."
Of course they catched Looter Shooter-Fans and people that are okay with the fact that they changed it storywise to a linear Action Adventure. I think this is the reason why the opinons are so different. I'm okay with Action Adventures, if they was selled as one and are high quality. God of War, for example. Nice game (...of course W3 is better).
But I hate (Looter) Shooter, got 2-3 Far Cry on my steam-account and never finished one. So it was often pure torture to finish CP2077. Because almost every quest ended with bambamBAM! and teteteTE! and the gigs - no, I'm trying to forget that.
People like me, they lost. Openworld-RPG-Fanatics, who got "Geralt forever" painted over their forehead.
And no, imho they can't fix that part, even if they wanted to.
So the only relevant question for CDPR is: how many RPG'ler they lost. How many millions copies less they will sell in the future without us?
They should fix the bugs and mechanis and go with their "new" customers.
"Well, this game is good/okay (RDR2 etc.), but.... Witcher 3 is the best
."Of course they catched Looter Shooter-Fans and people that are okay with the fact that they changed it storywise to a linear Action Adventure. I think this is the reason why the opinons are so different. I'm okay with Action Adventures, if they was selled as one and are high quality. God of War, for example. Nice game (...of course W3 is better).
But I hate (Looter) Shooter, got 2-3 Far Cry on my steam-account and never finished one. So it was often pure torture to finish CP2077. Because almost every quest ended with bambamBAM! and teteteTE! and the gigs - no, I'm trying to forget that.
People like me, they lost. Openworld-RPG-Fanatics, who got "Geralt forever" painted over their forehead.
And no, imho they can't fix that part, even if they wanted to.
So the only relevant question for CDPR is: how many RPG'ler they lost. How many millions copies less they will sell in the future without us?
They should fix the bugs and mechanis and go with their "new" customers.
When did CDPR staff say that the game was revolutionary? Clickbait journalists certainly overhyped the game in hopes of traffic. Same bunch is now shitting on the game for not being what they imagined the game to be.
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That would remove all the stakes from the story, especially if you befriend Johnny. Where would the story be heading? Nowhere fast. And if Johnny doesn't really add to the story, why have him there in the first place? As some whacky sidekick?
Putting the story on a timer gives it dramatic weight.
As much as I HATE THIS, Your honestly Right. Makes sense either way.For years following sentence was set in stone between me and my boyfriend, when we discussed games:
"Well, this game is good/okay (RDR2 etc.), but.... Witcher 3 is the best
Of course they catched Looter Shooter-Fans and people that are okay with the fact that they changed it storywise to a linear Action Adventure. I think this is the reason why the opinons are so different. I'm okay with Action Adventures, if they was selled as one and are high quality. God of War, for example. Nice game (...of course W3 is better).
But I hate (Looter) Shooter, got 2-3 Far Cry on my steam-account and never finished one. So it was often pure torture to finish CP2077. Because almost every quest ended with bambamBAM! and teteteTE! and the gigs - no, I'm trying to forget that.
People like me, they lost. Openworld-RPG-Fanatics, who got "Geralt forever" painted over their forehead.
And no, imho they can't fix that part, even if they wanted to.
So the only relevant question for CDPR is: how many RPG'ler they lost. How many millions copies less they will sell in the future without us?
They should fix the bugs and mechanis and go with their "new" customers.
Personally I WISH and HOPE they could Fix this and make it the RPG They Promised but it seems like what's done is done and there's no turning back but to keep on moving and using what they got. Sucks a lot, least for me but whatever I guess.
I don't think so either, they are very different companies, but what angers me the most is not the INcomplete product, are the ways to deliver it-
Do you want to walk?
Do you want the turn response with the car to be better? engine change ?
Do you want crowds of people to be less ... idiots?
Do you want reshaders=?
Now you can!!! and there are mods for it in NEXUS
which is just the job they should be doing or having done. if we start from that base, literally, they can take the modifications and implement them, the community will continue to improve the game faster than the developer, so now what =? At least they should be ashamed and put some tools and a platform for it, but noooo, they say that the mmods tools go later so as not to break the original experience .... what original experience =?
I think the only thing left is indie, period. Leave everything else to the kiddies and the swooning complacent fans. CDPR has shown their true colors, if they regain trust, I'll be shocked, but I think gaming is a dead hobby for the most part outside of the indie rare gems now.
But CDPR is an indie developer, in the truest sense of the word. They aren't beholden to a publisher or it's deadlines.