this shouldnt work, or it would, just not how you probably imagine. the deploy ability is poison a unit. the poison all units stuff is tribute and shouldnt be duplicated by syanna according to wording.Haven't played but double (Syanna) Salamander looks pretty viable for hotfix. Initially it seemed memey but SY defenders being so difficult to get around makes it very ....toxic
Because this is the Time of Complaints, aka first few days of a new content
Everybody and their grandchildren will shed crocodile tears after every proper beating from a new archetype - nothing surprising really. Broken this, fix that, etc. This is part of the healthy lifecycle of expansions.
I wasn't speaking hypothetically, it works. Several people have posted videos demonstrating it wiping the board. It requires setup which is why I said initially that it seems memey but only time will tell.
lol def sounds like an oversight/bug to me then. because from wording this shouldnt be happening at all
Well I never played SY but I guess tribute actually edits the Deploy ability (if paid).
From what I can tell, Roland takes care of the tribute problem with Syanna. Probably an oversight but I've come to expect no testing from devs so no surprise here, unless it was intentionally overlooked.
Hahaha, that
⬆ would be fun.Quick nerf idea, just add "Adrenaline 3 (or 2): Reset the power of 3 adjacent units instead."
How exactly is Viy broken? It's been a while since I've played so maybe I'm using it wrong lol
If you haven't played the game in a while (I mean, from yesterday) you may not know how broken it is. First thing is, install the game, build any random deck and queue in to ranked. Most likely you will face OH and Ivy combo.
The point is, the whole deck is built around it. Only consume units (like Keyran, Barbagazi, Slizard, Haunt) and f**k load of tutors (Oneiro, ADC, TheUnicorn, Matta, Whispering Hillock, Royal Decree) and almost every turn, Viy is played and consumed. You never see it on board. Combined with the stupid freaking Larva ticking +2 every turn on top of +10, +20 almost every turn and till the end you haven't had a chance to counter or stop Viy. With such tempo, last say is guaranteed and they play 25+ point Ivy as the last card.
I am speaking theoretically because I don’t own most of the cards necessary to try this. I found cards to tutor viy 8 times (oneromancy twice, Royal decree, ihuarraquax, Matta huuri, Alzur’s double cross, whispering hillock, and dol dhu lokke). I found 10 different cards that could consume viy the turn it is played (Kayran, wererat, barbegazi x2, slyzard x2, barghest x2, desert banshee x2). Some of these cards could consume viy more than once, although going that tall is ill advised. I cannot judge reliability in drawing the right cards at the right time, but I expect one could play viy at least 6 times in a match and consume him without an opponent ever interacting with viy. That would be 93 points from viy alone. Now the remaining cards have to be pretty weak, but if you could average a conservative 4 points per card with 17 played (remember Matta huuri’s draw), other cards would contribute 44 more points. I expect this should easily win two rounds.
Ok I see...I haven't faced any in the little time I played. All of those consume units you listed are orders which can be removed, locked or reset though. Either they have to be on the board or Viy has to be on the board first and then the rest of their cards would be very weak judging by the cost of the tutors. I'm sure that's not an easy solution but I think after some time ppl will tech against it, if it gets hotfixed then that's fine since I don't rely on it. The one match I played against NG they actually moved it to the top of my deck and stole it but my deck wasn't built around tutors so there wasn't anything I could do.
Yes, exactly. We should have 4 or 5 cards which can do 6 damage (there aren't that much) and/or that many lock cards and/or play Lockdown so that OH can't consume immediately and put it back in deck. If one of the condition is not met, it goes out of hand. So, I want to say the most overused word in Gwent's forum. It is BINARY
Honestly I would say there is no need to increase the starting strength and just cut down the strengthening to 2.viy could easily be fixed by starting at 9 or maybe even 10 and increasing by 2 per consume, that way it's still good and you can build a viable deck around it but it doesnt explode as much
Messyr rases a fair point though.
I agree on self poison, but not movement. Yrden getting meta didn't stop hidden cache back then.
