Sardukhar;n7414050 said:
I wouldn't go as far as Sapkowski does not approve the changes. He simply doas not care about video games at all.
I wouldn't go as far as Sapkowski does not approve the changes. He simply doas not care about video games at all.
Tarathelion;n7414210 said:
No, he doesn't approve of any of the changes made by anyone other than himself. The games are all non-canon to him.
""Maybe it's time to set the matters straight," he went on. "'The Witcher' is a well made video game, its success is well deserved and the creators deserve all the splendour and honour due. But in no way can it be considered to be an 'alternative version', nor a 'sequel' to the witcher Geralt stories. Because this can only be told by Geralt's creator. A certain Andrzej Sapkowski.""
This was from 2012 and may have changed. Doubt it though.
Seems Mr. Sapkowski didn't sign a typical game contract then. Most times they specify the intellectual property can be used for a specified period of time and only within certain parameters. Since apparently CDPR did get the rights lock-stock-and-barrel I stand corrected in terms of Ciri.Sardukhar;n7414050 said:
Sardukhar;n7414520 said:
Sure, and he should not consider it canon. What i mean is, its more of a general stance from him rather then the fact the he dislikes the changes that have been made.
We once had a thread about the whole ciri easter egg i think we even got more or less the whole discussion about the rights to put witcher characters in CP already there......funny how everything repeats sooner or later
My understanding is that magic, and monsters always existed on the Witcher world (game, don't know about the books), though some may have arrived in previous conjuctions.Tarathelion;n7414180 said:
The last conjuction, had the arrival of only one type of monster, and they are human. Although, there may have been another one, after the humans appeared.
Where they originated had no magic, and they learned about magic after arriving. Ultimately outbred, and Conquered the elven kingdoms, and occupied all their main cities.
Eventually rewriting history to appear better than they are, as conquerers always do. Most humans think this world, is the one they always inhabited, and the invaders are all the other species.
Few even realise their human cities are built on elven ruins everywhere, not just the most recently conquerted ones, where it's more apparent.
The records are not accurate, both misinterpretation, and deliberate misinformation, has obscured the truth.
Humans arriving, is much more likely, and supprted by the evidence, in the world, while "monsters" arriving, is humans written history.
Humans come from a non magical world, and learned magic once here, and also means Ciri can travel to, and from them,
The method she uses is part of her own nature, not dependant on the world she's currently on.
Regarless of all that, CDPR can do whatever they want. They write the rules of their own universes, and what they say is all that matters, unless the contracts already signed forbid it
Sardukhar;n7458690 said:
Wow, passive aggressive much?
Anyone can see that’s a ludicrous comparison. Frodo didn’t have a conversation with Samwise about “traveling to a world where people used swords made of light”.
People can downplay this with a perfunctory “Oh Ciri didn’t really mean that… It was just a teaser”, but Ciri spoke the words in the Witcher story, and like it or not, the Ciri/CP2077 connection is a part of BOTH stories now. Thus, the two are NOT separate, insofar as Ciri is concerned.
CDPR opened that door, not me…
carabidus;n7462530 said:
No. There's no connection before there actually is. So far there's a couple of vague lines about a person in a magical setting traveling between worlds which is not at all unheard of. And even if it was an easter egg for CP2077, there's nothing to say they'd have to make it concrete.
carabidus;n7462530 said:
And they should also close it before it gets out of hand.
kofeiiniturpa;n7462870 said:
Yep. There is a very vague reference to people with metal in their heads and flying cars. Could be Cyberpunk, could be any AE Van Vogt story. It was -deliberately- left that vague. There are hundreds of Cyberpunk 2020-specific references she could have used, including corporations, particular gear or cyber, the Net, you name it. They kept it hyper-vague for a reason.
If they want a true Cyberpunk experience, that means no magic. No dimension hopping sorcereresses. None of that fantasy stuff. There is no room for it.
Would be interesting to overhear a conversation or something about her... Like someone giving a police report or talking on their phone about how something of theirs was trashed by this weird white haired girl falling out of nowhere onto it
"I don't know what she was jacked up with, but there was a flash of green light and then my car hood was smashed in this white haired freak standing on it with a huge blade! Then she just vanished"
Outside of a passing reference though, no.
"I don't know what she was jacked up with, but there was a flash of green light and then my car hood was smashed in this white haired freak standing on it with a huge blade! Then she just vanished"
Outside of a passing reference though, no.
Suhiira;n7373260 said:
Although it is not a conversation that is best suited for easter eggs, one would expect the reunion with Ciri to be a "serious" scene, so in my opinion it is really a part of the story that she (and Avallac'h) spent some time in a technologically advanced futuristic world. And it is also stated that it was a relatively long time, half a year. Then again, it is not said specifically that it was the world of Cyberpunk, and not just something similar. It might be an interesting idea to make a game about her adventures in that world, even if it is not likely to happen. On the other hand, there could very well be some minor reference in CP2077.
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Ach, Sard, Sard, Sard. . . you wouldn't want to break EmperorZorn 's heart, now, would you? Ciriously?Sardukhar;n8491510 said: