New Ending (SPOILER ALERT)

[DavidXanatos]

I understand the point of the ending because the whole point is that nobody gets a truly happy ending in Night City, but the whole 'You've been in a coma for two years' is seriously contrived. Even if I can accept that, the fact that all you can do is give your love interest and friends a text message saying you'll be out of town for a few weeks is too much. Why, because Reed told you to? Why do I give a shit what he told me to do? Sure it's a matter of NUSA security and they could reneg on the deal if you gave away secure details, but at the very least any normal human being would call or visit their lover at the very least and explain that there is a cure for their condition. V is going in for experimental life altering surgery where there's no estimated recovery time and all he had to say to Panam was two lines through a text? Bullshit.

It doesn't even make sense that V would say nothing. He has been given weeks to live at most and he has told everyone he trusts this and then he is told that he could be in recovery for an indeterminate amount of time, and he doesn't even think for one second to tell ANYONE that he might not be responsive for a time for any particular reason other than 'I gotta bounce, see you later' through text? Also apparently Panam, or whomever you message doesn't even think to say 'wait, where are you going for possibly a few weeks when you told me recently that you're quickly dying.'?

I fully expected the ending to still be linked to the main story ending I.E. you have to connect to the blackwall through alt to activate the AI, or NUSA makes an agreement that you infect Alt as part of the deal, then you would still have the option of getting to the end and making your choice there and not ignoring the last quarter of the original game.

Yeah, I find this ending contrived. On its own I get it, but it seems like a ham hashed way of giving the nobody gets a happy ending message. Maybe CDPR didn't want to put in the effort of fundamentally rewriting the game ending or the writers just couldn't be bothered to do it, but it's pretty flimsy.

I saw that people were complaining about the ending before finishing it and I figured there would be some aspect that made it not a total happy ending and I honestly expected to be defending it like I did with the original ending, but nah screw that.

It isn't badly written on its own if you take it for what it is, but when you add in every external piece of other characters and your relationship to them it just doesn't chalk up to much for me.

(I'm referring to V as a he and Panam as his lover because that is how I played it, but I've seen the female V version with Judy as a lover and it is fundamentally the same.)

EDIT: As an afterthought, If you don't have a love interest in the game maybe it is a little less contrived but I still don't buy that V wouldn't say anything to anyone other than a bunch of texts saying he'd be out of town. Also I am ignoring the fact that just as an afterthought they shunted in that Johnny gets wiped and its only stated optionally in a call to Reed, which doesn't really make sense to me, surely the Relic would still have data on it. You could argue that the NUSA wouldn't want a known Anticapitalist terrorist alive so would wipe the chip, or at least part of the deal would be that the NUSA keeps the chip to use for their own research, which I would accept as a premise, but they didn't do that, they just gave a bullshit handwave of Johnny has to die for reasons as a fake excuse to give you a moral dilemma about going through with it if you like Johnny.

Exactly they went out of their way to create an other bad ending, its contrived bad writing, as simple as that.

 

[gorbaccio]

I understand the point of the ending because the whole point is that nobody gets a truly happy ending in Night City, but the whole 'You've been in a coma for two years' is seriously contrived. Even if I can accept that, the fact that all you can do is give your love interest and friends a text message saying you'll be out of town for a few weeks is too much. Why, because Reed told you to? Why do I give a shit what he told me to do? Sure it's a matter of NUSA security and they could reneg on the deal if you gave away secure details, but at the very least any normal human being would call or visit their lover at the very least and explain that there is a cure for their condition. V is going in for experimental life altering surgery where there's no estimated recovery time and all he had to say to Panam was two lines through a text? Bullshit.

It doesn't even make sense that V would say nothing. He has been given weeks to live at most and he has told everyone he trusts this and then he is told that he could be in recovery for an indeterminate amount of time, and he doesn't even think for one second to tell ANYONE that he might not be responsive for a time for any particular reason other than 'I gotta bounce, see you later' through text? Also apparently Panam, or whomever you message doesn't even think to say 'wait, where are you going for possibly a few weeks when you told me recently that you're quickly dying.'?

I fully expected the ending to still be linked to the main story ending I.E. you have to connect to the blackwall through alt to activate the AI, or NUSA makes an agreement that you infect Alt as part of the deal, then you would still have the option of getting to the end and making your choice there and not ignoring the last quarter of the original game.

Yeah, I find this ending contrived. On its own I get it, but it seems like a ham hashed way of giving the nobody gets a happy ending message. Maybe CDPR didn't want to put in the effort of fundamentally rewriting the game ending or the writers just couldn't be bothered to do it, but it's pretty flimsy.

I saw that people were complaining about the ending before finishing it and I figured there would be some aspect that made it not a total happy ending and I honestly expected to be defending it like I did with the original ending, but nah screw that.

It isn't badly written on its own if you take it for what it is, but when you add in every external piece of other characters and your relationship to them it just doesn't chalk up to much for me.

(I'm referring to V as a he and Panam as his lover because that is how I played it, but I've seen the female V version with Judy as a lover and it is fundamentally the same.)

EDIT: As an afterthought, If you don't have a love interest in the game maybe it is a little less contrived but I still don't buy that V wouldn't say anything to anyone other than a bunch of texts saying he'd be out of town. Also I am ignoring the fact that just as an afterthought they shunted in that Johnny gets wiped and its only stated optionally in a call to Reed, which doesn't really make sense to me, surely the Relic would still have data on it. You could argue that the NUSA wouldn't want a known Anticapitalist terrorist alive so would wipe the chip, or at least part of the deal would be that the NUSA keeps the chip to use for their own research, which I would accept as a premise, but they didn't do that, they just gave a bullshit handwave of Johnny has to die for reasons as a fake excuse to give you a moral dilemma about going through with it if you like Johnny.

Agree 100%!

 

[westyofoz]

Exactly they went out of their way to create an other bad ending, its contrived bad writing, as simple as that.

I completely agree. I was one of the few who loved this game from the start. I enjoyed the new content until the new ending. It left me feeling like crap as I do tend to immerse myself in the story. I've walked away. I just don't want to play it again with no good options, it just takes away the incentive to go through all that to end poorly again. In addition, you are right to say poor and contrived writing. The ending has holes and a few things don't add up. Sadly, we got what we got at the cost of CDPRs reputation.

 

[Little_Jim]

You all realize there is another better ending that precludes V maybe getting a cure: just opt out of the "Roof" decision, let Johnny live and move on with the open game. ....Spoiler: When you return to your apartment with this option, a postcard is pinned to your door from a "friend". Read message.

 

[MaksVivaldi]

Nah bro. This ending sucks. I know 2077 isn't about "happy endings" and all, but I'm the type of guy who gets WAY TOO emotionally invested. I got spoiled on the ending, and I gotta say, it kinda soured my excitement a bit. I wanted something happier. V gets to live, but loses two years of his life and everyone else (besides Vik) moves on. Judy moves to Pittsburgh and gets married, River was forced to sell out secrets to pay for Randy's treatment and refuses to see you outta self-shame, Kerry is too busy for you, and Panam doesn't even answer you (and Mitch says in a post-credit scene that Panam has a deep grudge because she trusted V and he disappeared). Nah, I'll stick with the original Nomad ending.

I sure hope that once CDPR makes the Cyberpunk sequel, and if they choose to continue V's story, make the new Phantom Liberty ending NON-CANON. Plus, V is useless in that ending anyway. Can't work as a merc as his body rejects all combat implants. Make the Nomad ending canon and set the sequel in a different city! Seeing other cities in 2077's cyberized world would be quite interesting. Plus, I'm biased. Panam became one of my favorite video-game characters EVER (her personality and loyalty is just 10/10) and V loses her and everyone else.

Lemme take a break and play the game later. Regardless, I won't be choosing the new ending anyways. xD

I had the same feeling... When I had this ending, my first thought was: hey, maybe this is a bad ending. And when I have seen all of endings and ending with Quiet Life is a secret ending, I was so confused

This ending is so similar to the ending for Arasaka, when you fly off to the orbital clinic, that I just had wild deja vu. Everything is the same, only from the NUSA side

Therefore, in the next playthrough the choice will be obvious towards Song Bird

 

[Waya555]

... V becoming some kind of nobody doesn't bother me that much in the end...

The Aldecaldos ending is the "best" from my point of view... just wish they added a bisexual romanceable man so that my heterosexual female V could leave NC with her guy, and my gay male V could also do the same...

Anyway, that's all I guess. ^^

 

[Kormac67]

The Aldecaldos ending is the "best" from my point of view

It just shoves V's dying issue under the rug. "The family will find a way", yeah sure.

When you return to your apartment with this option, a postcard is pinned to your door from a "friend".

Got that too but in a path without Tower ending. Looks like there are several of them.

 

[LeKill3rFou]

It just shoves V's dying issue under the rug. "The family will find a way", yeah sure.

You can see it in another, at least I do. No matter what Panam think, there is no cure (kinda obvious to me^^). But V will live the remaining 6 months with a familly, with people she love and who loves her back

 

[CTPhipps]

You can see it in another, at least I do. No matter what Panam think, there is no cure (kinda obvious to me^^). But V will live the remaining 6 months with a familly, with people she love and who loves her back

Given they dump your ass in so many other endings, I don't have a particularly romantic view of the Nomads.

 

[LeKill3rFou]

Given they dump your ass in so many other endings, I don't have a particularly romantic view of the Nomads.

I don't see it like that
Aldecaldos have to leave Night City (because they're hunted by Militech). Knowing that family comes first, the better for the group comes first, they can't "wait" V. So I would say that Panam already asked to V to joign the family, but in all other endings, it's like V refused it

 

[Waya555]

I don't see it like that
Aldecaldos have to leave Night City (because they're hunted by Militech). Knowing that family comes first, the better for the group comes first, they can't "wait" V. So I would say that Panam already asked to V to joign the family, but in all other endings, it's like V refused it

Well, from my point of view, they leave NC because Panam being the new "Boss", she decided to find a better place for the family. I mean, during the Aldecaldos storyline, she explains to V how stupid it was to even get to California in the 1st place. Saul sold the Badlands as the promessed land for a better life for the Aldecaldos, but Panam said something like the supposed land of plenty is just piles of sand and dust smelling of coyotes' poop, and nothing more.

Plus Militech isn't even a threat to them anymore, because Aldecaldos planted the stolen trucks in Raven Shavs territory after getting the basilisk... So my guess is that they leave, because Saul after finally retiring, or at least, after finally sharing the leadership with Panam, she probaby convinced him and the clan that NC wasn't the right place to live a better life.

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It just shoves V's dying issue under the rug. "The family will find a way", yeah sure.

Yup, it totally does, but no issue with that from my point of view, still hope at the end of the road, even if it's just a 6 months hollyday with new family and people who can be trust, who knows what could happen. That's why I consider it the best ending. ^^

(SPOILER) My 2nd favorite is the one where V just let his new DNA modified body to Silverhand. Even Silverhand LEAVES Nightcity!!! So, there is definitly something stinky in that place I guess... ROFL (END OF SPOILER)

 

[LeKill3rFou]

Well, from my point of view, they leave NC because Panam being the new "Boss", she decided to find a better place for the family.

At the end of "The Queen Of The Highway", Panam and Saul explain the camp they just moved is "safe" for a little while, but it is only temporary and can't stay there for long... Soon enough, they will have to leave Night City because they're on Militech radar and raffens too
After, indeed, there are other reasons, Badlands around Night City isn't the prosimed land that they hoped.

 

[graeme737]

Are we supposed to be able to continue the game after the ending? I'm not getting the option for "just one more gig" after. It just boots me to main menu after credits.

 

[Mushashi7]

Yes, the endings sucks - again. No happy ending for V.
I was kind of hoping CDPR came to their senses but they didn't.

The Witcher games at least had endings you could be satisfied with. But Cyberpunk is one big disappointment for me.
This attempt to hold on to disaster and grief is not something I will spend my time on. The next game from CDPR will not be pre-ordered or even bought if there are no options for at happy ending. I regret buying Cyberpunk and Phantom Liberty. A complete waste of my time and money.

Do not make games with only bad endings CDPR!
No matter how bored I am and need some entertainment I will NOT buy your games before it has been released on the market and I am able to determine if it has a good ending as well. I am in fact pretty mad.

 

[LeKill3rFou]

Are we supposed to be able to continue the game after the ending? I'm not getting the option for "just one more gig" after. It just boots me to main menu after credits.

Yes, but you have to be sure to not remove or overwrite the auto-save named "point of no return" created just before the endings (created before entering in the elevator in the base game).
If you remove or overwrite it, the option to keep playing doesn't appear ("one more GIG" button).

 

[Wingnut89]

Are we supposed to be able to continue the game after the ending? I'm not getting the option for "just one more gig" after. It just boots me to main menu after credits.

Yeah it’s really strange. It feels like it was forgotten by CD Project.

 

[medion_no]

Besides, for what it is worth now that the DLC is out, I haven't made my mind up just yet — but, with some likelihood, my V would just enter the dogtown with guns blazing and cleanse it of any life, including the president. Then, kick the door on her way out, and hang the sign 'Closed'. I wonder how that is going to check out against the actual gameplay freedom that the game offers.

You can let the president die and get a mini-ending of sorts with Johnny lol. Phantom liberty main quest would be closed tho.

 

[MartineDee]

You can let the president die and get a mini-ending of sorts with Johnny lol.

My V says hi.

 

[Mwatuangi]

It just shoves V's dying issue under the rug. "The family will find a way", yeah sure.

The Nomad ending acknowledges that V has a life not entirely defined by their status as a Disabled person. V has found people who care about them and a chance to continue to form meaningful bonds with that community in a way they couldn't in Night City, and it will be true no matter how short or long V lives. V can still pursue a cure - and it is in fact explicitly stated that the Aldecaldos intend to help them find one - and is even given medicine to help treat their condition in the meantime, so that dilemma isn't being ignored at all. It's just decentered, because the existence or not of a cure doesn't give V's life any extra value or significance; V's family will be with them no matter the outcome.

 

[Akrap]

The writing is fantastic in my opinion, in every single ending and the story as a whole. Like a certain ending or not, they told a story they wanted to tell and the story is captivating and believable. Everything is well connected and executed. Not liking the direction or result of some of the endings doesn't make it bad writing.