Crystal palace as DLC, sure... but only after a nom,ad area/wasteland is assured.
It's reassuring to me that no matter how long I am absent to this forum, Wizzy will always demand a nomad area.
Crystal palace as DLC, sure... but only after a nom,ad area/wasteland is assured.
It's reassuring to me that no matter how long I am absent to this forum, Wizzy will always demand a nomad area.
Why would said colonist want to visit any city back on earth, let alone Night City? First, it costs about $18,000 per kg to get into orbit again. Second, there is the issue of how weak and frail said colonist would be, (due to the muscle atrophy and bone degradation of living in low/zero gravity.) Third, there is much bitterness against highriders after they deliberately landed asteroids on terrestrial cities.
It's reassuring to me that no matter how long I am absent to this forum, Wizzy will always demand a nomad area.
I prefer the term 'practical', but I will accept snarky. You on the other hand have blinkers on.
Wether space travel/exploration is valid or present in the Cyberpunk 2020/2077 setting is not the issue. It's about wether or not it has a place in the game, (or at least the first edition.) Sure, Crystal Palace and the other LEO stations and habitats are present. Sure there are reasons to go there. But as any half decent card player knows, you don't show your hand too early.
If there is going to be space travel or Low Orbit flights of any kind, then CDPR should hold off and use it for content in future Cyberpunk games or additional content.
Oh, and before I forget, what has space exploration got to do with Cyberpunk? A world stripped of wealth and resources by the corrupt megacorporations that do nothing unless the profit margins are high enough. Space exploration is expensive and high risk, two of the things that the corporations avoid like the plague.
In fact, please answer this question:
Which is more Cyberpunk:
The aging mercenary, walking down a neon lit street littered with the detritus of corporate advertising andtakeaway food wrappers, a constant drizzle slowly soaking through his old coat, searching for a new contract and another doc that can keep him in stimulants and new reflex boosting implants while also patching him up.
or
How about this question:
Please name one Cyberpunk movie that featured space travel or exploration, (other than Alien - which was more Horor in my view,) other than by reference.
no DLC, put it in the game, once the witcher 3 crew finishes up use that team for project space station.
Total Recall had space travel, although I'm not sure I'd qualify it as cyberpunk. Blade Runner mentioned it frequently, of course, but as background.
It was important as background, BECAUSE it provided a cleaner, purer alternative to contrast with the gritty ugly setting. Space had to be unattainable in BR as it represented the Better Life the characters could never have. Even the replicants, who "came from" space in their way, were examples of how disposable non-humans do all the dirty work Offworld.
Which is the role the Crystal Palace and off-world typically serves in CP2020. Cleaner, purer, safer, better. Not For You, Punk. Which is great! From such contrasts come definition and flavour.
Now, one of my favourite PnP campaign went to space for an extended amount of time - Mars, the Moon, Orbit. Very well done, still cyberpunk as all get out and properly portrayed as how even in the "better world" off Earth, eventually humans still screw each other over. But it only worked because
first we spent months in Night City and then other terrestrial locations.
So that it could provide a contrast to the Cyberpunk setting that had already been established.
Which is why it's so important that 2077 be as perfectly Cyberpunk as possible. Everything after that can have space or powered armour or deltas or aliens or WHATEVER you've seen in other cyberpunk-style flicks....as long as the first one is as pure as they can make it.
Oh, another cyberpunk style space flick is Outland, with Sean Connery. Excellent - watch it if you haven't.
One.... Gattaca was pretty damn cyberpunk....
2 to answer your question, Outland, 2001,
I meant Cyberpunk (RPG) rather than Cyberpunk (Genre)
...all of my 'wat?' o_o ?...a spaceport for tourists...
But im my "game" im not a punk im pretty rich and succesful and i want to go to space.
But im my "game" im not a punk im pretty rich and succesful and i want to go to space.
But im my "game" im not a punk im pretty rich and succesful and i want to go to space.
i like space, i think its a fun place, i dont want mass effect star trek space its too clean i want dirty space and also less evolved.
I'm sure lots of games out there fit that description. The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay for example.
Cyberpunk 2077 will probably have us too entertained in Night City for us to worry much about space...