Alt should be incomprehensibly more powerful than a human mind. Johnny is the only reason we can even meet her. Alt has no reason to lie to V and Johnny, barely has a reason to even considering making a deal with us.
I also thought merging Delamain meant he became more like a true AI and lost interest in the primitive human world. It is mentioned on radio that AIs control all major stock market deals and financial decisions of almost every corporation on Earth but humans don't care because profits keep rising.
there isn’t any information about it because nobody knows, nobody ever returned to their body.
Alt warns you about being digitized but she doesn’t know what changes when you are “undigitized”, So sure it changes you but how? We don’t know.
Sounds feasable. Very little of this was explored ingame in a meaningful way.
And yeah, as you pointed out Jhonny is just a piece of shit through and through. Wanting to bang rogue while also trying to redeem himself for killing Alt... god I hate that character lol
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We don't know because noone bothers to ask in the game! The most obvious question and noone brings it up. Like seriously, what gives?
Firstly, V is one of a kind, the first to go through what they went through. As for your commentary on themes and leaps, that's on you. You're entitled to your views but you're not an authority.
Also, for your consumption of fiction is there really no room for your to think about the implications of what goes on in the narrative, does it always have to be super black and white and obvious for you to enjoy?
Exactly - AI is entwined heavily with corporations. It's pretty weird how every AI is buying up stock shares in space travel right now. Human's can't escape to space stations. Just like how in a certain ending we're getting the guestlist for every single person in the crystal palace. Who would want that information and why?
There's nobody who brings up that being moved back to your body immediately is somehow special. It doesn't matter that Alt hasn't experienced that exactly. Any supposition that V's situation is somehow relevantly unique is just that.
I'll temporarily come down from the hill I've chosen to die on to drink to that.
Maybe being undigitized isn’t a big deal? Like how teleportation isn’t a big deal in star trek?
Maybe it isn't? Maybe it is? We may never know because the game doesn't care to elaborate.
V seems fine afterward, except for the 6 months to live part so...Maybe it isn't? Maybe it is? We may never know because the game doesn't care to elaborate.
Yeah which you only find out after risking it. Which is fine I suppose. But I personally would have prefered if the game wouldn't treat the Arasaka ending as the obviously bad one.
Soulkiller was literally just as risky of a gamble as siding with the corpo.
I mean..impying that the changes (who will be copied as well) you suffered are not enough punishment and therefor not dark enough is a bit harsh.
Cyberpunk is a dark theme but I have more examples of protagonists being able to at least retire from their adventures although in a pretty broken state, than ones who simply die (especially in a stupid way).
Case from neuromancer retires, because he is fed up with it.
Turner from count zero retires to take care of his dead brothers family.
Molly finally manages to become free from extortion.
Mona from Mona Lisa overdrive becomes the new entertainment star.
Count zero and Angela have a pretty happy ending in count zero and only get digitilides in Mona Lisa overdrive.
Side characters die.
Cyberpunk is a dark theme but I have more examples of protagonists being able to at least retire from their adventures although in a pretty broken state, than ones who simply die (especially in a stupid way).
Case from neuromancer retires, because he is fed up with it.
Turner from count zero retires to take care of his dead brothers family.
Molly finally manages to become free from extortion.
Mona from Mona Lisa overdrive becomes the new entertainment star.
Count zero and Angela have a pretty happy ending in count zero and only get digitilides in Mona Lisa overdrive.
Side characters die.
I don't know, maybe the writers are asking the player to think for themselves, at least for a little bit.. or at least until any DLC states otherwise? Or maybe this is it and we're being asked to just think for ourselves and reflect on the game and discuss it like we're doing now?
I get that isn't satisfactory for a lot of us but just because someone in the game's narrative isn't spoonfeeding you details and other contrary views to your own are unsupported is extremely narrow-minded.
Yea im just making up my own end. Wont even play past the PONR. Did the same so i could play ME3 without beeing pissed everytime i saw the ending.
I disagree. What is there to discuss if there is no answer?
Now that would be perfectly fine if we had 2 satsifying conclusions and people could settle for one they like. But one of the conclusions are clearly upsetting for many while the other side is happy with it. This doesn't promote a friendly intellectual discussion. This promotes a war of opinions and personal preferences.
Ok, that's an opinion and one CDPR might not share. If so, vote with your wallet, don't buy DLC. I will not buy anything unless it deals with saving Vs life.. whatever version of that life it is.
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Also there is no war here, I liked some of the rebukes to my own view, I've even stated as much and I am one to change opinions when I feel that my mind has been changed, but it has not.. yet. If anyone is getting upset over me not agreeing with them, too bad.
I'm just saying that if that would be their intention, they could have done a lot better job at it. Thing is, they didn't need to spoonfeed anything. A simply dialogue with misty questioning Alt's stance could have already give a platform for a discussion.
But there are no real ingame reason to question what Alt says.
And trust me, i definitely won't be buying any DLC until I know what I'm spending it on.
Well, we don(t know much about that. That may also be some propaganda to keep people not looking.
The AI as made of lines of code. These lines are stored somewhere and they need computing power to operate. AIs use distributed resources to run. The need processing power and electrical power and bandwith. Nothing else. The information constituting them are stored somewhere and they can be accessed anytime. What is more relevant is that Alt is in the net for more than 50 years, and that is a very long time. This very long time is the cause of the changes of her mindset.
Sorry, I disagree.
Johnny is her last lover. Johnny is the guy who stormed Arasaka tower for her. Rogue was Johnny's input before Alt, and she came to rescue her. Alt is not jealous, I believe she's beyond such pettiness. But Johnny indeed needs Alt's help. Netwatch too because they want to broker some agreement with the AIs to rebuild the net, and the voodoo boys want an agreement for their own goals (ie : gather enough power to be independant and safe)
No she does not.
She had revenge 60 years ago when Johnny tried to rescue her, or when the Arasaka Tower was bombed. She a god in the machine. Do you really think she cares for the mere mortals ?
Alt has absolutely nothing to gain in absorbing the engrams. It is somewhat costly to her because she has to find more storage space and more processing power. I believe this is some plot-hole in order to forbid the "immortality in the machine" ending.
Nope. Neither Netwatch or the NUSA are in position to destroy the AIs. Netwatch and the NUSA are a small part of the Cyberpunk world.
Agreed, there are some murderous rampaging AIs, but they are not organized to end humanity. This is not a prelude to The Matrix.