what exactly is it "to be conscious"? When u make up in the morning u become conscious and u remember memories and u have a certain personality, and things u do will be based on those things. If i copy all of those things, memories, personality, everything. And put it in a random body, then imo that "body" will behave and feel exactly as you.True but I think that oversimplifies it. A soul can be a religious mystical interpretation but I think it can also be considered your consciousness. In this case the soul would be your brain, which even if transferred to data wouldn't be you but a reproduction of you.
As long as your brain remains alive you retain a consciousness, what is on it is another matter. To me that is a soul.
A response to what? If they already have DLC plans that would have tied these endings up (before this outrage) there is nothing to say but at best "wait and see". If they don't have any plans, or don't want to give anything at all away then at best, "we hear you". Might as well be a non answer.Just need a response right now, that is all.
It would make more sense to have biosculpt clinics for that. According to the lore, biosculpting had already in the 2040's become cheap enough that almost anyone can afford it and advanced enough that any modifications are undetectable. Exotic mods are of course an exception, and they're also so expensive that they'd likely only be available in high-end clinics catering to the wealthy elite.Eh, Witcher 3 conclusively ended but we still saw a post-game arc with returning characters. As far as we know the devs are aware players want to see returning characters in a continued story, and that the game will have the same if not more post-release content.
I bet one of the free-LC will be turning the mirrors into a sculpting tool where you can change V's apperance.
Yep. And I don't want to be railroaded into player's perceived best ending. Copy V sucks.Ok guys i made some side quests and now i agree, i was wrong soulkiller is coping you, not load, but i still think that V in finall is V like in game soma
what exactly is it "to be conscious"? When u make up in the morning u become conscious and u remember memories and u have a certain personality, and things u do will be based on those things. If i copy all of those things, memories, personality, everything. And put it in a random body, then imo that "body" will behave and feel exactly as you.
And until the end of time is exactly what is happening in this thread. You can go back and find this exact same discussion happening right now since the start. At least some people are finally realizing it's copy V.I agree that it would in many ways, but it still wouldn't be "you" and you wouldn't experience it as you do yourself in my opinion. Be this a soul or a consciousness is a philosophical debate we could have until the end of time.
They have no concrete plans for that by now, according to an interview a couple of days ago. They start think about about that in the new year. Probably February or March we will hear from them about itA response to what? If they already have DLC plans that would have tied these endings up (before this outrage) there is nothing to say but at best "wait and see". If they don't have any plans, or don't want to give anything at all away then at best, "we hear you". Might as well be a non answer.
But it still the best ending, also like in the game soma we can see the same, when your brain is coping, you that lived before become a copy, also we played V all game from 1st place, and at the end too, i dont care V or copy, i seen by my eyes, by V eyes how it works. Its my visionYep. And I don't want to be railroaded into player's perceived best ending. Copy V sucks.
I would also like to add that I found certain endings bittersweet yet optimistic. It's strongly implied there is hope to yet save V, but it's left open ended. And at least in certain ones they get to live their life with friends fighting to survive - something that gets at what it means to be human.
I'm hopeful we get to finish V's story in some form of DLC but it very well could be left open ended.
It would make more sense to have biosculpt clinics for that.
Good, by then hopefully more and more players finish the game and see the awful endings by February. There is potential for DLC, already discussed that several times.They have no concrete plans for that by now, according to an interview a couple of days ago. They start think about about that in the new year. Probably February or March we will hear from them about it
I´m on last gen, but have had just a few crashes, game itself runs fineGood, by then hopefully more and more players finish the game and see the awful endings by February. There is potential for DLC, already discussed that several times.
They shouldn't have even released on last gen in the first place. That is a big part of the problem with what we got. Sorry guys.
what exactly is it "to be conscious"? When u make up in the morning u become conscious and u remember memories and u have a certain personality, and things u do will be based on those things. If i copy all of those things, memories, personality, everything. And put it in a random body, then imo that "body" will behave and feel exactly as you.
Apparently, you are a minority.I´m on last gen, but have had just a few crashes, game itself runs fine
The heart of this matter is, beyond the philosophical debate, what actual difference - if any - does it make whether it is V or Copy V?I was expecting this to be the choice initially but after giving it some thought I believe it's actually up for philosophical debate.
In this case I don't believe V is actually "killed" by Soulkiller, but put in a dream-state while their brain is rewritten. If you assume their brain doesn't die during this process, you are either choosing if when V wakes up their brain believes that they are actually them or if Johnny's engram is programmed onto V's organic brain.
The way I see it even if you choose to "let Johnny take your body" it's still just V living their life THINKING they're Johnny, because the actual Johnny died long ago with the one in the game being an AI copy acting as he would based off a brain scan.
In this interpretation in the cyberspace scene after Alt "Soulkills" V you are actually not playing as their consciousness but as an AI construct acting as they would based off the brain scan. You choose what V's physical consciousness gets to believe they are.
Thus if you assume Alt is telling the truth and the brain scan is a complete reproduction of V, if it gets reinstalled into their brain the original V goes on to live the remainder of their life with their mind intact.