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I am fully aware of this that you say, but in the current state of the game there is no chance that 'more content' is being added while the basegame is unplayable for the majority of the players. They will put out DLC and Expansions at a faster rate most likely. But I dont see them adding stuff while only the minority would be able to play it.
The flaws in this game will become apparent in the second run, when you don't have the "Wow" factor provided by the characters that you don't know yet, by the surprises provided by the main mission plot and the side missions about the relevant characters.
Then you'll start noticing some big flaws in the game, like:
A) Visual and animation quality disparity between main missions and side missions;
B) Uninteractive world. In witcher 3 we had less city parts, but the vendors were very different. In Cyberpunk 2077 there's a lot of "copy and paste" street vendors, different faces, but same structure, a bunch of generic phrases, but you can't buy from them;
C) There's no eating and drinking animations, so restaurants, bars and night clubs feels more like a gimmick;
D) No meaningful gameplay effects on having the apartment (I don't use the apartment for the majority of the campaign);
E) no reason to spare or kill enemies;
F) Physics are totally broken;
G) The collision system is very bad, enemies overlay each other, and you can easily trespass enemies and other NPCs because they are ghosts.
H) Most of the side activities are just rioting gang turfs, catching some stuff, saving someone, abducting some characters, stealing data but none of those have a direct impact in world lore - serves only for mindless grinding and that's it.
I) You can't choose to help one gang or another, to clean the district from gangs infestation, and even the fixers talk to you just by phone video. You never get to know them, there's no concern or character development. No secondary plots on them, they're just there for grinding money, street cred, just like NCPD work exists to grind money, street cred and maybe some good item spec.
J) Police system have to be implemented, instead of ,the "instant teleportation godlike street police, that let the gangs trample around and kill for fun, but bashes V for looking for them for more than 5 seconds and that gameplay mechanic is ok". All police officers hates V for no apparent reason, except for the one mission you make for them.
V have access to police radio for who knows why reasons (Vic only installs the database in kiroshi, not a radio signal interceptor).
So, delivering that kind of quality, it seems that the team spent a lot of effort with references, easter eggs and other secondary stuff, before doing the basics right.
And most of the gimmick stuff were just useless things to help youtuber's job easier to entertain their public, without any kind or consequences in the gameplay, that doesn't really add for the immersion or gaming experience, which would be ok, if the BASICS were done right.
Then you'll start noticing some big flaws in the game, like:
A) Visual and animation quality disparity between main missions and side missions;
B) Uninteractive world. In witcher 3 we had less city parts, but the vendors were very different. In Cyberpunk 2077 there's a lot of "copy and paste" street vendors, different faces, but same structure, a bunch of generic phrases, but you can't buy from them;
C) There's no eating and drinking animations, so restaurants, bars and night clubs feels more like a gimmick;
D) No meaningful gameplay effects on having the apartment (I don't use the apartment for the majority of the campaign);
E) no reason to spare or kill enemies;
F) Physics are totally broken;
G) The collision system is very bad, enemies overlay each other, and you can easily trespass enemies and other NPCs because they are ghosts.
H) Most of the side activities are just rioting gang turfs, catching some stuff, saving someone, abducting some characters, stealing data but none of those have a direct impact in world lore - serves only for mindless grinding and that's it.
I) You can't choose to help one gang or another, to clean the district from gangs infestation, and even the fixers talk to you just by phone video. You never get to know them, there's no concern or character development. No secondary plots on them, they're just there for grinding money, street cred, just like NCPD work exists to grind money, street cred and maybe some good item spec.
J) Police system have to be implemented, instead of ,the "instant teleportation godlike street police, that let the gangs trample around and kill for fun, but bashes V for looking for them for more than 5 seconds and that gameplay mechanic is ok". All police officers hates V for no apparent reason, except for the one mission you make for them.
V have access to police radio for who knows why reasons (Vic only installs the database in kiroshi, not a radio signal interceptor).
So, delivering that kind of quality, it seems that the team spent a lot of effort with references, easter eggs and other secondary stuff, before doing the basics right.
And most of the gimmick stuff were just useless things to help youtuber's job easier to entertain their public, without any kind or consequences in the gameplay, that doesn't really add for the immersion or gaming experience, which would be ok, if the BASICS were done right.
To be fair, there're not that many first person RPGs out there, one direct competitor would be the fallout 4 but FO had an entirely different combat system built around VATS which is much slower paced .
this game's combat is more like a FPS , not just 6 hours of carefully scripted bang and whistles but 60+ hrs of open world, so it's a very challenging and bold move to even try packing enough detail and tight, engaging story telling into that many hours of gameplay.
because when you see a fast paced first person game with guns, you'd immediately compare it against other fast FPS games such as COD. But cod only had 7 hours of story to tell, they can handpick the perfect environment for each scripted battle , this is simply not feasible in this game....
this game's combat is more like a FPS , not just 6 hours of carefully scripted bang and whistles but 60+ hrs of open world, so it's a very challenging and bold move to even try packing enough detail and tight, engaging story telling into that many hours of gameplay.
because when you see a fast paced first person game with guns, you'd immediately compare it against other fast FPS games such as COD. But cod only had 7 hours of story to tell, they can handpick the perfect environment for each scripted battle , this is simply not feasible in this game....
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Well in all fairness, it's more like they serve you a slice of bread with some cold-cuts of roast beef on it with some cheap super-market canned beans while you see Gordon Ramsey in the klitchen. Still beef and beans, but Gordon Ramsey is just there for star power and getting advertising by helping sell a inferior product. Roast beef sandwich is good, but I was promised a 5 star restaurant experience.
Quite fun how you put it as B movies, and I agreed and then you said "Still better than what we've got" and I still agree, difference is they got paid to do it.
For which they got their little cameos in the game... seriously, though, I know one of the themes of Cyberpunk is style over substance, but that shouldn't extend to how the game is made!
They didn't lie about anything, they just needed time and they realised they wouldn't be able to implement many things when the game was delayed for the first time. They probably thought about delaying the game indefinitely but unfortunately couldn't because of shareholders, now we can only hope they will fix everything and enhance the game
So true.... It's really sad, that moment when I boot up GTA San andreas and the game let's me interact with tons of things and NPC's and ACTUALLY roleplay more than CP2077... It's really fuckin sad....
This made litterally no sense? President saying I will make America great again, and the result differed is like wishes, not promises. Same with your moon and stone. People selling you a toothbrush but you get toothpaste instead is worse and litterally false advertisement.Well next time NASA is advertising the will land on Mars colonize it and build a city and then.. Well we landet on the moon and brought back some stones. Well after all it was just planning and subject to change.
Like I said, they can fix issues and add content at the same time. It wouldn't be huge content drops (probably).
The January patch could fix a ton of issues AND add the game's AI (that they had to cut apparently because it was broken) AND add 50 cars that they also had to cut because they weren't finished in time for launch. That's just an example.
There's tons of people at CDPR and they aren't all working on fixing the game. Some might be finishing up content they cut, while others are working on completely new content and the rest are fixing issues.
Fixing issues is important, but the whole crew isn't working on that because not all of them can and they'd also get even more behind on other things. Patches don't have to focus solely on fixing issues.
I get some of the gripes here but some of it also falls to this: Just a reminder
GTA delivered more, so, you're saying trust Rockstar first, got it.
I waited 8 years for this, I had a two week period planned to embrace all the 'content' of this game and I have instead pushed myself to do as much as possible to get a good look over the game
Yea yea, but as we also established: There are limits to this excuse...
I wholeheartedly agree with your entire post. This is what was advertised over and over, what made me and many more buy this game. Beyond bugs that can be fixed with patches, my major disappointment is that this game does not include even 50% of the features that were promised or advertised. They created an incredibly big hype over these videos when most of their content never actually happened in the game.
Spot on mate. This is the main issue with this game. The biggest let down I've ever had in all my gaming life (and I've been playing games for more than 30 years).
Spot on mate. This is the main issue with this game. The biggest let down I've ever had in all my gaming life (and I've been playing games for more than 30 years).
Well said and I must agree. CDPR has however to take full responsibility for this disaster of a launch. With the reputation they behold should be worth more. They could easely told the companies "This is far from the standard of our games and this Will backfire beyond imagenation" They were fully aware this backlash would happen and went through with it anyway. That is on them and them alone. PS taking game off store is proof of this being a possible circumstanse.
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You quoted CDPR?Me or then? I never write something like this...
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