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[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 502 42.0%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 122 10.2%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 353 29.6%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 217 18.2%

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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#7,961
Dec 29, 2020
When tou think about it,we got Far Cry 5, just with neons, and not as good gunplay, less content, and surprisingly, a fuckton buggier.
 
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tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#7,962
Dec 29, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
I would be all in for that one but I am afraid that is wishful thinking. Writers tend to get a bit strange when you tell them that their story is not fun to follow.
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It has nothing to do with reception, I have a suspicion that the endings might be placeholders until they further develop the endgame and/or other parts of the story. Besides, they must know that there is no real choice with those options, but that might be giving them too much credit
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Simuxas said:
When tou think about it,we got Far Cry 5, just with neons, and not as good gunplay, less content, and surprisingly, a fuckton buggier.
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I read somewhere that player choices in AC Valhalla have more impact on the story than they do in Cyberpunk. I have no way of verifying that though
 
onosendai7

onosendai7

Senior user
#7,963
Dec 29, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
Btw. Love your forum name and avatar Pic.
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Thanks.
Really appreciated :)
 
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jahkin

Forum regular
#7,964
Dec 29, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
I would be all in for that one but I am afraid that is wishful thinking. Writers tend to get a bit strange when you tell them that their story is not fun to follow.

Look at the responses from the Mass Effect 3 team. Casey Hudson was pissed that people criticised the games Story.
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Btw. Love your forum name and avatar Pic.
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Casey Hudson has left the studio ... twice now? One can only hope because somebody had hte balls to ask for using the Legendary Edition to ... think some past decisions over...

But yeah ... I mean, its the old "Misery"-thing - the King-Story about the obessive fan that captures her beloved author and tries to force him to rewrite the last book so her fictional heroine survives and does not die etc...

Authors...I mean, if it happens, than under the guise of a fully blown "overhaul" of the game in many other aspects or something...and only because the game is technically and in regards to features quite broken and a litle barebones...

But just because we do not like the outcome? I advice not counting on it, or you end like the sad pathetic fools of Star Wars fandom that believe just because they do not like the new movies Disney is decanonizing those ... at least that idea always makes me chuckle...
 
I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#7,965
Dec 29, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
It has nothing to do with reception, I have a suspicion that the endings might be placeholders until they further develop the endgame and/or other parts of the story. Besides, they must know that there is no real choice with those options, but that might be giving them too much credit
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Hey don't get me wrong.
I would love to see a free story dlc that fixes VS conditions into a relatively nice outcome. It would give me a reason to replay the game.

(the story dlc has to be free, because people would cry "pay wall to survival" really quick, while people who are content with the endings (9.1%) would feel cheated, because they would have liked other things.)

What bugs me...
They announced several free dlcs (might not be story related) and 2 major expansions in the 40 hour range.
What are they planning to implement? The story makes it pretty clear all of the time that V needs to act really fast to save his/her existance. Adding content to act 2 feels pointless, because even the sidemissions feel pointless at this point. According to the game, we don't have time for that.
So we might get content that is pointless to play, because V is barfing half of the time.
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onosendai7 said:
Thanks.
Really appreciated :)
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Love the series
 
rippercityransom

rippercityransom

Forum regular
#7,966
Dec 29, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
I read somewhere that player choices in AC Valhalla have more impact on the story than they do in Cyberpunk. I have no way of verifying that though
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I’ve gone back to Valhalla to take a breather from CP since my second playthrough is just showing me more and more things missing/making me bitter (plus there’s a Yule event, how festive) I can check back in after I beat it. Valhalla suffers a similar problem that CP has, the map is HUGE but full of mostly pointless filler.
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#7,967
Dec 29, 2020
jahkin said:
Casey Hudson has left the studio ... twice now? One can only hope because somebody had hte balls to ask for using the Legendary Edition to ... think some past decisions over...

But yeah ... I mean, its the old "Misery"-thing - the King-Story about the obessive fan that captures her beloved author and tries to force him to rewrite the last book so her fictional heroine survives and does not die etc...

Authors...I mean, if it happens, than under the guise of a fully blown "overhaul" of the game in many other aspects or something...and only because the game is technically and in regards to features quite broken and a litle barebones...

But just because we do not like the outcome? I advice not counting on it, or you end like the sad pathetic fools of Star Wars fandom that believe just because they do not like the new movies Disney is decanonizing those ... at least that idea always makes me chuckle...
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Well. The latter is actually happeing... Albeit slowly.
But we are talking Disney here. Disney is not interested in a star wars that makes sense or the fans want. They look at their bank accounts and see what star wars performs.

No. Matter how they "sell" an overhaul of the endings. A lot of people would really appreciate it.
I dare say that CDPR is forced to act, if they don't want this desaster to go down in history alongside mass effect 3.

Maybe they bring out a DLC that makes alterations and sell it as their big mind game, cut content, directors cut, continuation of the story...

But they have to do something or they might not sell enough expansions.
 
lokozar

lokozar

Fresh user
#7,968
Dec 29, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
[...] and 2 major expansions in the 40 hour range.
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Just curious. Do you happen to have a source for this?
 
tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#7,969
Dec 29, 2020
Just had an interesting thought, many of us dislike the endings because they limit replayability, right? BUT, what is the point of replaying if choices throughout the game don't have an impact anyway?

Maybe they intentionally made the endings bad to prevent players from replaying the game and seeing how their choices don't actually matter...
 
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Anrix1

Forum regular
#7,970
Dec 29, 2020
Damn 400 pages! <3 Just maybe we'll get a response if this keeps up
 
I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#7,971
Dec 29, 2020
lokozar said:
Just curious. Do you happen to have a source for this?
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Iirc, it was mentioned by milez tost and others whe. They were discussing the shorter main story (but larger open world part - although we can't really enjoy it, because endings) and that they plan to bring out expansions that have the range of blood and wine.

Blood and wine is pretty large in scope - roughly 40 hours iirc.
 
iamthesparky

iamthesparky

Fresh user
#7,972
Dec 29, 2020
I just watched all the endings on YouTube after finishing my ending with Panam, Judy and the crew. I thought my ending was a touch melancholy, but still hopeful. I assumed there was another ending that was "better", but they were such bummers.

I don't mind self-sacrifice endings, so V taking her own life would be OK if she only got a chance to tell everyone why she did it. I don't want to watch Judy cry!

I don't know, I need to process all these other endings.
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#7,973
Dec 29, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
Just had an interesting thought, many of us dislike the endings because they limit replayability, right? BUT, what is the point of replaying if choices throughout the game don't have an impact anyway?

Maybe they intentionally made the endings bad to prevent players from replaying the game and seeing how their choices don't actually matter...
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Interesting business decision.
 
tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#7,974
Dec 29, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
Hey don't get me wrong.
I would love to see a free story dlc that fixes VS conditions into a relatively nice outcome. It would give me a reason to replay the game.

(the story dlc has to be free, because people would cry "pay wall to survival" really quick, while people who are content with the endings (9.1%) would feel cheated, because they would have liked other things.)

What bugs me...
They announced several free dlcs (might not be story related) and 2 major expansions in the 40 hour range.
What are they planning to implement? The story makes it pretty clear all of the time that V needs to act really fast to save his/her existance. Adding content to act 2 feels pointless, because even the sidemissions feel pointless at this point. According to the game, we don't have time for that.
So we might get content that is pointless to play, because V is barfing half of the time.
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The percentages in the menu don't go to 100, so that has to be added right? Also, there is no 6th skill tree yet which should also be added. This could be wishful thinking also, and they might be related to multiplayer (unacceptable) but there is definitely still hope for things to get better.

I can't see those percentages being added without affecting the ending, one way or another
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#7,975
Dec 29, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
The percentages in the menu don't go to 100, so that has to be added right? Also, there is no 6th skill tree yet which should also be added. This could be wishful thinking also, and they might be related to multiplayer (unacceptable) but there is definitely still hope for things to get better.

I can't see those percentages being added without affecting the ending, one way or another
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I Personal see the relic timer as a progression. When you start the final mission, it hits 40%. I personally see the 50% mark as the point where Johnny becomes the main entity and V is being slowly erased. Could be wrong though. It does however makes sense when we look at Vs overall condition at 40%.
 
tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#7,976
Dec 29, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
I Personal see the relic timer as a progression. When you start the final mission, it hits 40%. I personally see the 50% mark as the point where Johnny becomes the main entity and V is being slowly erased. Could be wrong though. It does however makes sense when we look at Vs overall condition at 40%.
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I think it shows 90% when you choose to give Johnny your body, could be mistaken though. Does the last percentage go to 100 when you finish everything in the game?
 
onosendai7

onosendai7

Senior user
#7,977
Dec 29, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
The percentages in the menu don't go to 100, so that has to be added right? Also, there is no 6th skill tree yet which should also be added. This could be wishful thinking also, and they might be related to multiplayer (unacceptable) but there is definitely still hope for things to get better.

I can't see those percentages being added without affecting the ending, one way or another
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Nope.
They are simply broken.
The first is your race to legendary status. It's stuck at 90% until you play an ending.
The second is "is johnny your pal?" and you cannot raise it above 70% I guess it was intended to go to 100% anyhow, but that has been cut.
The last is "I am dying soon ?" marker. I have 110+ hours in the game, and it is still at 40%...
 
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lokozar

lokozar

Fresh user
#7,978
Dec 29, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
Iirc, it was mentioned by milez tost and others whe. They were discussing the shorter main story (but larger open world part - although we can't really enjoy it, because endings) and that they plan to bring out expansions that have the range of blood and wine.

Blood and wine is pretty large in scope - roughly 40 hours iirc.
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40h each, that's nothing to sneeze at. Assuming they stay true to their word ...
 
tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#7,979
Dec 29, 2020
rippercityransom said:
I’ve gone back to Valhalla to take a breather from CP since my second playthrough is just showing me more and more things missing/making me bitter (plus there’s a Yule event, how festive) I can check back in after I beat it. Valhalla suffers a similar problem that CP has, the map is HUGE but full of mostly pointless filler.
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It's sad that those two are even comparable when CP was supposed to be the more polished and more ambitious game. The idea of Valhalla being the better RPG is just tragic
 
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Notserious80

Forum regular
#7,980
Dec 29, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
It has nothing to do with reception, I have a suspicion that the endings might be placeholders until they further develop the endgame and/or other parts of the story. Besides, they must know that there is no real choice with those options, but that might be giving them too much credit
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I read somewhere that player choices in AC Valhalla have more impact on the story than they do in Cyberpunk. I have no way of verifying that though
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To get the "good" ending you have events all trough the story you have to do right. think its like 3-4 events that you have to handle correct to get the "good" ending. Thats in a game thats like 100+ hours easy if your doing it all. more like 200+ id say
 
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