Correct me if wrong, but isn't Ciri one of the more powerful people in the franchise already? Or do you think there is no leveling or skills in the game? It's just gear and weapons?
She was
Because from what I understood, Ciri lost her powers (fighting the white frost?). So she's no longer the most powerful being. I assume that if she still had her powers, she would have beaten this monster fairly easily.
Likely she will just be a witcher, with "witcher powers" and some magic tricks learned from Yennefer
That chain immediately comes to mind, and I'm sure she isn't on 'absolute master' level with swords or magic, either.
There'll almost certainly be experience, levels, and skills/perks/something.
There'll almost certainly be experience, levels, and skills/perks/something.
They already broke lore in a major way. Once you have done this anything can be done, conjuring things from the imagination because lore limitation is off the table.
Why wouldn't there be? I mean, I wouldn't have never even considered an option that we wouldn't be leveling skills in Witcher 4.
Geralt was already quite experienced witcher at the beginning of third game, and we still had skills to learn and level up. I see it more as a game mechanics than actual character development. Even though it is also a character development.
Now I managed to confuse myself
I mean, in Sims it makes perfect sense to level up your skills while actually using those skills. Babies learn to talk and walk first and then they learn to swim etc. In Witcher (and Cyberpunk), we choose the line of profession we want to take. Do we prefer melee combat? Signs? Potions? Fast and fury or strong and heavy? Ciri will most likely bring something new to this, but I still believe the mechanic will be there.
To me it sounds like taking skill trees away form the game like this would be like removing 50% of it's content. Could there be any better/other solutions instead? No idea. Personally, I really like skill trees in character development and definitely expecting to have one again. But now your post made me slightly terrified
Ciri isn't a witcher and never went through the trial of the grasses. The methods to do so have been lost and its impossible to make new Witchers. Yet the devs have chosen to ignore this, and do it anyway.
Just for you info with a quote especially about your post
The Witcher 4 dev CD Projekt Red talks Ciri fan reaction, playable Geralt coyness, and if the game will honour your previous choices
They said they're not nerfing Ciri, but they don't explain how they're ballancing this. Even if they deny it, and looking at the trailer, they're going to nerf her. Ciri was zipping around and 1 hitting everything by the end of TW3, so the game wouldn't work if she was still op.
The happy ending with Ciri Geralt basically gives her the title of a Witcher with a Silver sword.
He danced around the answer.
Calling someone a witcher and being actually a witcher are two separate things.
She was trained with witcher sword fighting technique for a small period of time. She was not a real witcher.
The knowledge to make new witchers got lost.
Also every single female died during the trials of grasses.
Plus no witchers(including Gerald) wanted her being a witcher.
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I don't remember where exactly, but in another interview they said that Ciri is the first witcher, who underwent the Trials transformation voluntarily - so it was definitely her own initiative. We obviously don't know how or where, because that will be a plot point in the game, but I'm sure we will see Geralt's reaction to this.
In an interview with Eurogamer they've also said that "a few years" have passed since Witcher 3 ending, so I think she had time to train her skills.
When I refer to "Witcher" I refer to a proper Witcher who has gone through the full mutations etc. That has never happened to Ciri.
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You do know that Andrzej Sapkowski is on record saying how he totally disregards the games as having anything at all to do with his world, right?Just for you info with a quote especially about your post
The Witcher 4 dev CD Projekt Red talks Ciri fan reaction, playable Geralt coyness, and if the game will honour your previous choices
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I will need to re-read the books but I don't recall Ciri ever explicitly being called a Witcher in the books. She was raised by witchers and they trained her how they would any other witcher, so she is essentially 90% of the way there, minus the mutations. I think it may be fairer to say that she was regarded as one because of her appearance and upbringing but never explicitly called a Witcher - how can someone be a witcher if they havent gone through the trial of the grasses and the subsequent mutations?
It has been a while since I read the books so not 100% certain on the above.
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In the end of the Lady of the Lake she thinks to herself: "By the devil, she thought, why not? I bet any money that this world has jobs for a witcheress".
It is true that she was never mutated in the books, but in the books Vesemir is still alive and Regis is still dead - yet the former's death and the latter's resurrection lead to some of the best and most emotional scenes in Witcher 3. Canon should be allowed to change and characters should be allowed to grow - otherwise, you'll get stuff like The Force Awakens, where JJ Abram's inability of moving past Episode IV has destroyed all the character and universe growth of the original Trilogy.
So she clearly sees herself as a Witcher in the books but still doesn't seem to yearn to become a mutant - I just can't get past mutated Ciri. it wasn't needed.
Veering off-topic but here is where I think I have landed:
- Ciri should not be mutated. With this approach, I fear they are trying to 'girl boss' Ciri which is not needed and would ruin her character- for me at least. In the books she was an absolute lethal weapon in her own right and took down Bonhart eventually. I imagine that as a mutant, she infertile and can't pass on Lara Doren's blood, unless that is also being changed (refer back to 'girl boss' concerns).
- Ciri is an amazing character who absolutely could carry a game / story but not as 'TW4'. "The Witcher" is Geralt's story and that has come to an end. Whatever they are doing with Ciri, it should something else, with a different name - a fresh start. Maybe even in other worlds away from the continent (not Cyberpunk stuff). I think in the novels she was in Camelot at the end.
- If they are going to keep dipping into the world of the witcher, i'd have preferred it focused on totally new characters, and timelines.
- They never should have messed with the trial of the grasses thing and mutated her - nobody other than Andrzej Sapkowski could ever convince me otherwise.
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Without the books, none of these characters, the world, the lore or this game exist - of course they are relevant!
"Girl-boss" is a term I absolutely hate, but okay, let's entertain it for a moment.
So, a girl who is:
- related to every major royal family on the continent;
- is a direct heir of Nilfgaard Empire;
- has a very special™ elven herritage;
- was trained by witchers;
- was trained by mages;
- was a gang-member at some point;
- and is lusted over by interdimensional elves, while being a walking, talking weapon of mass destruction - is not a girl boss.
It's her story too, probably in equal measure. In Witcher 3 she was a secondary protagonist - I've heard somewhere that Sapkowski even wanted to name the series "Blood of Elves" - but published wanted him to keep the Witcher title for name recognition. As a matter of fact, she is the main hero of Witcher 3. the entire plot revolves around her and she gets a big character arc - it's just she wasn't the main protagonist.
And they probably will in the future - but that's doesn't mean that Ciri would be a bad protagonist.
Your ignoring the fact that the witchers and Gerald did not want her to undergo the trial. For good measure because every single female died during the trials of grasses.
Your ignoring the fact that the knowledge to make new witchers got lost.
Considering the above facts having Ciri being a witcher is a big lore break and logic break. It does not make sense.
When you ignore things anything is possible.
It is this trend now-days with every game going girl boss route. Where some things are forced to make place for tough-strong female protagonists in next entry of a game series. Don't know what is the reason. It is weird.
It might look like a Last of Us 2. Lets hope we do not get Gerald killed and then "revenge of the fallen" by Ciri. would be disappointing. Gerald is my favorite gaming character.